Does a Power Supply protect against Brown outs?

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All I can seem to find is information on surges, I am wondering if Power Supply's protect components against Brown-Outs at all?
Do they in general? Does mine specifically?

I have a Corsair RMx 550w Gold psu.
 
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Superuser.com has a great write up:

A brownout is an undervoltage condition, when the AC supply drops below the nominal value by about 10% (Nominal meaning 110-120 or 220-240 in most places). So in the US a brownout might be defined as the AC voltage dropping below 99V. The Intel specification for ATX power supplies specifies that voltages between 90 and 135, and 180 and 265 should allow correct power supply operation (section 3.1), so the power supply will still run normally even when a noticeable brownout occurs.

Some people also include very brief power dropouts (under 30mS, or about 2 AC cycles) as brownouts, as incandescent bulbs will briefly, but visibly, dim during that time similar to a real undervoltage condition...

Dark Lord of Tech

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Superuser.com has a great write up:

A brownout is an undervoltage condition, when the AC supply drops below the nominal value by about 10% (Nominal meaning 110-120 or 220-240 in most places). So in the US a brownout might be defined as the AC voltage dropping below 99V. The Intel specification for ATX power supplies specifies that voltages between 90 and 135, and 180 and 265 should allow correct power supply operation (section 3.1), so the power supply will still run normally even when a noticeable brownout occurs.

Some people also include very brief power dropouts (under 30mS, or about 2 AC cycles) as brownouts, as incandescent bulbs will briefly, but visibly, dim during that time similar to a real undervoltage condition.

In either case, Intel defines them as undervoltage conditions, and discusses what requirements an ATX power supply has to follow under such conditions in section 3.1.3 of Intel's ATX12V Power Supply Design Guide

The power supply shall contain protection circuitry such that the application of an input voltage below the minimum specified in Section 3.1, Table 1, shall not cause damage to the power supply.

Typically power supplies have an input section composed of a bunch of interesting circuitry that, at the end of the day, provides about 308 VAC to a transformer, which then powers the regulation and conditioning circuitry. This circuitry actually forms the major basis of the regulation circuitry, and if you are using less than the full wattage of the power supply may be able to manage with significant undervoltage conditions without falling out of regulation on the output side.

When a brownout occurs, the powersupply will attempt to deliver the rated current for as long as it can (based on the incoming voltage and current) and if it cannot maintain regulation it'll deassert the Power Good signal going to the motherboard. The motherboard is responsible for deasserting the power on signal going to the supply, and if it does so in time, then the supply will drop all its output and turn off.

If the motherboard fails to do this, the powersupply should drop its rails when it falls too far out of regulation, but that is not guaranteed, and with low quality power supplies you may find your components and motherboard receiving undervoltage conditions as well.

What happens at that point depends on how robust those components are, but it's generally not a good thing as the components attempt to operate at the lower voltage. Keep in mind that the power supply always supplies an undervoltage on power down for a brief time (dropping the outputs to 0 is not instantaneous) so very brief undervoltage periods are fine. The problem only occurs if the power supply remains in an undervoltage state for a long period of time, which can only occur if both the power supply and motherboard fail to realize the problem, and continue to attempt to operate.

Keep in mind that the Intel specification is not much more than an industry guideline, and there are no certifying bodies. Even good power supplies are not bound by any agreement to follow its recommendations. My favorite section is 3.1.5. I've seen many power supplies, both expensive and cheap, fail to keep those recommendations!

The specific effects differ depending on the component being discussed, which is really a separate discussion.


https://superuser.com/questions/113113/why-are-brownouts-so-harmful
 
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i do believe you don't need to worry about brownouts, however because the voltage gets lowered your computer might crash or your psu might breaker itself due to the lack of voltage. why are you worried about brownouts?
 

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-rm550x-power-supply,4484.html
RMx 550w has a good hold up time.

Our hold-up time measurement easily passes 17ms. Further, the power-good signal is longer than the ATX specification's 16ms minimum recommendation. This unit's single bulk cap is obviously up to the task, and it doesn't hold Corsair's RM550x back in these crucial tests.
 

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Does a UPS provide brownout protection?
As in when the voltage drops will the battery or other circuitry keep it at 120V?
 

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To get right to the point no.
Power supply, their counting MS hold up time it takes you about 220 MS to blink your eye.
A UPS is not really made for that it's more made to give you a bit of time to exit / save and shut down the PC.