Upgrade cpu or Gpu

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

hello i currently have a AMD FX6300 Black Edition paried with a gtx 960 2gb windforce edition and i cant deciced which one to upgrade

ps can only upgrade one of them

games i play incase it might help
ark
fortnite
pugb
call of duty
battlefield

manddy123 · Nov 9, 2017

Budget for the upgrade?

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

hmm like 400 ish

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

manddy123 :

hmm like 400 ish i was going for a i7 6700k in the furture but that would 100% bottleneck the gpu

manddy123 · Nov 9, 2017

IMHO it would be wiser to move up to a new platform.
The 960 is still plenty to play games @1080p medium settings, and PUBG, Battlefield are quite CPU bound if i'm not wrong,
Therefore i'd recommend a step up on the CPU side. It's much easier to swap a GPU later on, and investing in anything below the current gen isn't a smart choice.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($105.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $373.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-09 06:09 EST-0500

EDIT:
Not as much as you'd think if you're playing at 1080p or 720p. The 960 is able to handle it's own if you're willing to lower a few settings in the newer AAA titles.

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

^Upgrade the cpu now. The gpu prices atm are a mess, Volta and Navi are also coming next year, giving better upgrade options for the gpu.

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

in most games its my gpu thats 100% usage just pllayed a game of fortnite max settings 1080p and cpu was 50-60 on cores odd 70 popped up put gpu was maxed at 99-100 always

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

manddy123 :

IMHO it would be wiser to move up to a new platform.
The 960 is still plenty to play games @1080p medium settings, and PUBG, Battlefield are quite CPU bound if i'm not wrong,
Therefore i'd recommend a step up on the CPU side. It's much easier to swap a GPU later on, and investing in anything below the current gen isn't a smart choice.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($105.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $373.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-09 06:09 EST-0500

EDIT:
Not as much as you'd think if you're playing at 1080p or 720p. The 960 is able to handle it's own if you're willing to lower a few settings in the newer AAA titles.

what i said above this

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

Maxwell gpus overclock pretty well too, so that's something you could do to improve your performance.
Go for 16gb of +2666MHz RAM with the 1600 if your budget allows it.

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

would that cpu not bottleneck the gpu seens its 100% witha 6300 atm ?

manddy123 · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

It is quite normal that the GPU is always lingering next to 100%, more yet if you're putting Max settings in current games...
With that said, a good upgrade for you would be getting a 1060 or higher, and those are really expensive atm due to mining rampage.

That's why i recommended the CPU improvement, it will doubtless help you on gaming, but won't do miracles as a fresh new GPU would, but it is a much wiser choice now IMHO.

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

manddy123 :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-1060-GAMING-DisplayPort/dp/B01IEKYD5U/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1510227910&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+1060+6gb

thats what i was gonna go with as thought it was cheap not brought a gpu or cpu since 960 was released

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

The Ryzen 5 1600 would definitely not bottleneck the gtx 960 as it has over twice the multicore performance over the 6300 and over 50% better singlecore performance.

The gpu upgrade would also be a possibility but remember that
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4fyxFT/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10700g-10m
Would make your cpu a really bad bottleneck and likely cause stuttering + few second freezes as you generally want to be gpu bound in games and not cpu bound.

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

The Ryzen 5 1600 would definitely not bottleneck the gtx 960 as it has over twice the multicore performance over the 6300 and over 50% better singlecore performance.

The gpu upgrade would also be a possibility but remember that
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4fyxFT/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10700g-10m
Would make your cpu a really bad bottleneck and likely cause stuttering + few second freezes as you generally want to be gpu bound in games and not cpu bound.

i meant the 960 bottleneck cpu would be fine just would the 960 hold it back

manddy123 · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

Is that brand new?
It has a very good price on it.

Might be worth considering then.

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

Finstar :

i meant the 960 bottleneck cpu would be fine just would the 960 hold it back

Yes, the gtx 960 will hold the Ryzen 5 back. But as i said above, it's always better to have your gpu be the bottleneck than have your cpu be the bottleneck.

The Ryzen 5 1600 would also remove any cpu related bottlenecks that existed with the FX 6300

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

The Ryzen 5 1600 would definitely not bottleneck the gtx 960 as it has over twice the multicore performance over the 6300 and over 50% better singlecore performance.

The gpu upgrade would also be a possibility but remember that
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4fyxFT/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10700g-10m
Would make your cpu a really bad bottleneck and likely cause stuttering + few second freezes as you generally want to be gpu bound in games and not cpu bound.

yh 1070 would be way to much was thinking of 1060 as been playing at med to low settings alot fortnite started playing max settings i get 40 fps cpu 60% gpu 100% so would i not get a increase in fps due to its already max ?

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

I'm assuming fortnite doesn't utilize all your cpus cores which is causing the 60% load as the spec requirements mention only quadcores and say that the gtx 960 should be well good enough to run it.

You could download perfmonitor 2:
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor-2.html
Which shows the usage of each of your cpus cores.

If the usage is hitting 100% on even one of the cores you'll know that your cpu is bottlenecking.

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

I'm assuming fortnite doesn't utilize all your cpus cores which is causing the 60% load as the spec requirements mention only quadcores and say that the gtx 960 should be well good enough to run it.

You could download perfmonitor 2:
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor-2.html

Which shows the usage of each of your cpus cores.
If the usage is hitting 100% on even one of the cores you'll know that your cpu is bottlenecking.

would msi after burner work as i have the ingame display on with all cores showing ?

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

Finstar :

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

I'm assuming fortnite doesn't utilize all your cpus cores which is causing the 60% load as the spec requirements mention only quadcores and say that the gtx 960 should be well good enough to run it.

You could download perfmonitor 2:
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor-2.html

Which shows the usage of each of your cpus cores.
If the usage is hitting 100% on even one of the cores you'll know that your cpu is bottlenecking.

would msi after burner work as i have the ingame display on with all cores showing ?

Yes

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

Finstar :

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

I'm assuming fortnite doesn't utilize all your cpus cores which is causing the 60% load as the spec requirements mention only quadcores and say that the gtx 960 should be well good enough to run it.

You could download perfmonitor 2:
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor-2.html

Which shows the usage of each of your cpus cores.
If the usage is hitting 100% on even one of the cores you'll know that your cpu is bottlenecking.

would msi after burner work as i have the ingame display on with all cores showing ?

Yes

then mixes from 60-75 i saw

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

tried pubg as well gpu 100 cpu 80 ish but game runs really bad on good systems due to not optimzed yet

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

Your old cpu and gpu are so well on level with each other that you'd pretty much need to upgrade both to see major impact in game performance.
I'm just suggesting you start with the cpu as it's the more logical choice as of now.

THEHIPPIEPROJECT · Nov 9, 2017

Finstar :

hmm all am wanting really is more fps with better graghics as used to playing on muh and some games look really bad on low-medium

Finstar · Nov 9, 2017

THEHIPPIEPROJECT :

Well, just go for the gtx 1070 i linked then, it's the best gpu that fit's your budget and will definitely allow higher graphic settings than your old gtx 960.

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