New 2017 Build for 3D, Rendering, & gaming - Now Built but having small issue

seraphant

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So I've been doing some looking around and think I have my system parts wise put together but Still getting hung up on the memory and could use advise on that as well as some other questions I have to make sure this will all work.

I use my machine for a bit of everything 3D (Lightwave), Video/Photo using Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator (pre CC), and gaming. Gaming wise I like to have thing look good (High to Very High) but not a stickler for "I have to have the best always"

Right now I'm just trying to get all my parts picked out so I can take advantage of black friday deals, but in general I was looking to get this built between now and early next year. No real budget in mind just trying to get a good build that will last a good number of years and get some deals on parts if I can.

Here is what I'm looking at currently for my new build:

Processor: Ryzen 7 1700 (I plan to try and overclock to 3.7 or 3.8) or 1700x if overclocking is to complicated for me
Motherboard: ASUS Prime X370-Pro
Processor Cooling: Stock cooler that comes with 1700
Memory: G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (32gb in future)
Video Card: For now I'm going to re-use my Nvidia 970 but plan to upgrade to a 1070 or 1080 in the future
OS: Win 10 64bit Pro
Storage: Samsung 960 Pro 512gb M.2 + 2 4tb drives from previous build
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 6 or Be Quiet! Silent Base
Power Supply: I haven't picked yet

So here are my questions:

1. so as I said above I am going to try and overclock the processor to either 3.7 or 3.8, I don't have any prior experience with overclocking. I found a video saying you can up the speed and voltage in the AMD Ryzen Master program, is it really that simple? If it is more complicated then that then I'm not sure I want to go fooling around with what I don't know and would just switch to a 1700x and call it a day.

2. Now with memory I've been reading alot of different things and just want to get this straightened out. I went on G.Skills site and put in the motherboard above and the highest speed they say to use with it is 2400, but I have seen other post saying they have been getting 3200 to work. But when I change the motherboard to a Crosshair VI Hero it shows 3200 being compatible. Now I've seen that if you are overclocking it likes fast memory, so is the use of the 3200 that I posted above only usable if the memory is also overclocked or how does that work and what would be recommended for this build?

3. For the the stock cooler that comes with the 1700 (if I go that route) will that be enough to cool the processor if I overclock it to the 3.7/3.8 range?
 
1. Don't use Ryzen Master to OC, manual in BIOS is the only good way to go. Don't go 1700X as you will need to invest in a cooler

2. Get 32gb for now as extra set of 16 gb ram, even same model, may not work with your current 16 gb. FlareX is very expensive, other G.Skill rams are pretty good too.

3. stock should suffice for that level of OCing, B350 is too. I will spend the extra money on ram

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($284.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($87.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.00 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $961.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-10 11:41 EST-0500
 

seraphant

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Did a little more looking around based on your updates, this is where I'm currently at. The $0 stuff are things that I'm bringing over from my previous build (Video card which I'll update to a 1070 later and 2 hard drives that are just data drives).

I decided to go back down to 16gb for the ram since I wasn't really liking the prices of going 32gb right now plus I have 16gb in my current build and has been working just fine for me. From what I've read anyway the only purpose getting 32gb would serve me is if I was dealing with 4k footage or rendering really big stuff to which I'm not there with my personal stuff yet. So I'll worry about upping to 32gb later if what I'm doing calls for it.

otherwise how does this check out?

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpQYnn) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpQYnn/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | [AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kPzK8/amd-ryzen-7-1700-30ghz-8-core-processor-yd1700bbaebox) | $284.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | [ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4) | $56.98 @ Newegg
Memory | [G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L2VBD3/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gtz) | $199.25 @ OutletPC
Storage | [Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TstWGX/samsung-960-pro-512gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v6p512bw) | $289.99 @ Amazon
Storage | [Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rYn2FT/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd4003fzex) | $0.00
Storage | [Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qRtWGX/seagate-barracuda-pro-4tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st4000dm006) | $0.00
Video Card | [EVGA - GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6ZL7YJ/evga-video-card-04gp43975kr) | $0.00
Case | [Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jrVBD3/phanteks-case-phes515pbk) | $79.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | [EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9q4NnQ/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1) | $99.89 @ OutletPC
Optical Drive | [LG - UH12NS40 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QC648d/lg-uh12ns40-blu-ray-reader-dvdcd-writer-uh12ns40) | $0.00
Operating System | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $30.00
Case Fan | [Noctua - NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm) | $14.84 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | [Noctua - NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm) | $14.84 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | [Noctua - NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm) | $14.84 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | [Noctua - NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8r9KHx/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm) | $14.84 @ OutletPC
Other | [SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04)](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fqRFf7/silverstone-pwm-fan-hub-system-cables-black-cpf04) | $14.44 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1149.89
| Mail-in rebates | -$35.00
| Total | **$1114.89**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-11-16 21:35 EST-0500 |
 

seraphant

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So I got all the parts and now have it put together and is working great. I overclocked it to 3.8, Ran Cinebench, Intel Burn Test, Prime 95 and everything checks out ok.

I'm having one weird thing happen that maybe you know whats going on. When I go to turn on the machine it will sometimes just sit at the ASRock screen (where it shows press F2 or delete to got to BIOS, etc.) and just sit there. Looking at the hard drive activity LED it is not not blinking even after letting it sit there for a few minutes. I end up having to hold the power button to shut it down turn off and back on the power supply and then it will go normally. This doesn't happen all the time but it's happened a few times now that it has me concerned on whats going on.

In terms of the Overclock this is what I did in case this is causing the issue:

- Changed CPU Frequency from 3000 to 3800 mhz
- Changed the voltage down to 1.37 which when typed it goes to 1.36875 (Original voltage it was at when I switched to manual was 1.18750) UPDATE: it did it again when I just reset to check this number so I uped it to 1.375 since that was another voltage number I saw fpr this overclock and actually loaded up slightly quicker then it was before.

- Disabled C6 Mode in CPU Config in the Advanced Tab
- Disabled Global C-State Control in the Zen Command Options

The last 2 were recommended in the overclocking video I was watching
 

seraphant

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Yea I first ran cinebench 15 and it finished with no issues, then ran Intel Burn Test which it made it through ok but the temps at the highest made it close to 90, after that I ran Prime 95 for 3 hrs and no errors were found. For temps the highest it got during that was 85 if I remember right. Thinking now those temps are a little high.

After typing my previous post I stepped it back to 3.7 and 1.275 voltage based on numbers I found on a reddit OC post for my processor I found. Ran cinebench again with no issue and ran Prime 95 for a little over 2 hours and got no errors. Highest temp it got to was 75 but only stayed there briefly.

on the reddit post talking about Ryzen 7 1700 OC, most were about what I'm currently at with the 3.7 & using 1.25 voltage. There was one guy that said he was able to do 3.8 at 1.275, which I might try since I'd like take it back to 3.8 if it can be done but if 3.7 is the highest I can go with the stock cooler and have reasonable temps then I can live with it for now unless I get another cooler.

But the whole issue I was having with it not booting and having to shut down and cycle on and off the PSU is that an issue because of the overclock or is that a whole other issue?

 

seraphant

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Yea right after I installed windows and got updates that was the first thing I did before even attempting overclocking, also have the latest firmware on the m.2 drive. So everything has the latest update. (Version 3.30 Bios & Version 3B6QCXP7 on the m.2)

yea I agree that I don't think it's the PSU as I haven't seen anything that makes me think thats the issue.

One thing I was thinking it might have been was something with the SATA connections since the manual mentions something about the ones labeled A1, A2, etc using the same lane as the m.2 spots so the SATA3_A1 slot is empty. But it's happened again since doing that so that obviously wasn't the issue.

I'll try running it at my current setting: 3.7 mhz at 1.275 voltage for a couple days to see if it happens anymore. Unless there are anymore thoughts on what might be happening.