Help choosing monitor! Good 60 hz or budget 144 hz?

Dogg1e · Nov 11, 2017

Hello guys! Greetings from Chile!
I need help choosing a New monitor. The Last monitor i had it was 9 years old and it died. The problem is that here in my country there are little variety of monitors and the good ones are expensive, and there are no 144 hz IPS monitors.

My deskopt's componentes are:
Gigabyte Gtx 970
I5-4690K@4.0Mhz mobo Oc
Msi z97 gaming 5 MoBo
8 gbs HyperX Fury ram

Being my budget 475 dollars, my left choices are:
-Buy a 60 hz IPS monitor

-Buy a 144 hz 1 ms monitors from the following:

Samsung LC27FG70FQLXZS (VA panel, But bad reviews with a lot of issues) (this one cost 475 dollars, the other ones of the list are cheaper)

Asus MG248Q (TN panel)

Msi G27C2 (TN panel, a lot of issues too)

BenQ XL2411 or XL2430 (TN panel)

Acer XF270H (TN panel)

Asus VG248QE. (TN panel, old)

I have interest in gaming, and the games i play are CSGO, PUBG, SC2, Evil Within 2, LoL, Battlefield 1.

So, any answer, tips and leads Will be really appreciated.

Thank you very much!

Frag Maniac · Nov 11, 2017

Since you're on a budget, I would avoid a 144Hz display, especially if you expect 144 FPS in games like BF1 at high settings.

Dogg1e · Nov 11, 2017

Frag Maniac :

The thing is that i do get 240-300 fps playing CSGO and LoL, the Other games i can run them at 60 fps. Following your advice, which 60 hz monitor do you recommend me? (475 dollars)

Frag Maniac · Nov 11, 2017

Dogg1e :

From what I've seen you have to carefully limit your settings in BF1 with a 970 to get 60 FPS, and even then it won't be constant. I just watched a YouTube vid for instance that was set at Ultra settings, and he severely compromised resolution scale to only 50%, yet his FPS was in the 30s. That's a game that jumps around a lot on FPS.

My advice if you want to stay at refresh rate or higher, which is best to avoid screen tear, and if you want fast response, is to get one of the 60 Hz TN panels that's 8 bit. There are many made like that now and they have much more lifelike colors than the 6 bit ones.

Dogg1e · Nov 12, 2017

Frag Maniac :

Dogg1e :

From what I've seen you have to carefully limit your settings in BF1 with a 970 to get 60 FPS, and even then it won't be constant. I just watched a YouTube vid for instance that was set at Ultra settings, and he severely compromised resolution scale to only 50%, yet his FPS was in the 30s. That's a game that jumps around a lot on FPS.

My advice if you want to stay at refresh rate or higher, which is best to avoid screen tear, and if you want fast response, is to get one of the 60 Hz TN panels that's 8 bit. There are many made like that now and they have much more lifelike colors than the 6 bit ones.

Ok perfect!, what about IPS monitors?

Frag Maniac · Nov 12, 2017

Dogg1e :

IPS displays do have lifelike colors, but also a huge tradeoff. They are very low in brightness, an inherent side effect of IPS tech. This means in dark scenes dark colored objects lack a lot of detail. It's called black crush and trust me, it can get very annoying. On my IPS HDTV I'm constantly adjusting color warmth and brightness levels to avoid some scenes looking too dark or too washed out.

This is why I plan on getting a high end VA panel HDTV soon. Another thing IPS is horrible at is HDR. It simply lacks the brightness needed to represent it well.

That said, average price VA panels cannot produce colors as accurately as IPS, but the TV I'm going to be getting has a very high end video processor in it (Sony XBR49X900E).

I'm not implying a TV is a better choice than a monitor, it's just that I prefer to have one display for everything for reasons of cost and space, so it must have a TV tuner.

Dogg1e · Nov 12, 2017

Frag Maniac :

Dogg1e :

IPS displays do have lifelike colors, but also a huge tradeoff. They are very low in brightness, an inherent side effect of IPS tech. This means in dark scenes dark colored objects lack a lot of detail. It's called black crush and trust me, it can get very annoying. On my IPS HDTV I'm constantly adjusting color warmth and brightness levels to avoid some scenes looking too dark or too washed out.

This is why I plan on getting a high end VA panel HDTV soon. Another thing IPS is horrible at is HDR. It simply lacks the brightness needed to represent it well.

That said, average price VA panels cannot produce colors as accurately as IPS, but the TV I'm going to be getting has a very high end video processor in it (Sony XBR49X900E).

I'm not implying a TV is a better choice than a monitor, it's just that I prefer to have one display for everything for reasons of cost and space, so it must have a TV tuner.

and whats the matter with 144 hz monitors playing at 60 hz frequency (60 fps)? it would be worse than playing on a 60 hz monitor? i dont really know what to do actually

Dogg1e · Nov 12, 2017

Frag Maniac :

What do you think about this monitor for my desktop?
ASUS VG245H
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-vg245h-24-inch-freesync-gaming-monitor,4822-6.html

Frag Maniac · Nov 12, 2017

You're more likely to get screen tear if your FPS is well below the display's refresh. Screen tear is what Vsync is for, it syncs each frame edge to edge so you don't see ripples onscreen. The problem is, Vsync for games is usually set at 60Hz, 30Hz, or in some case 120Hz. Most games are developed with console players in mind, because the AAA titles sell WAY more copies on their platforms. This is why most games use 60Hz Vsync, because most console gamers play on 60Hz TVs.

Some games will play fine at your display's refresh (FPS), but others will not. Vsync is something that some devs hardcode in to the specs they choose, usually based on console systems, and it can cause problems on PC unless you have hardware that easily adapts to it.

The main reason I advised against 144Hz though is you'd have to have a pretty high end GPU to use it's full potential, and you said you were on a budget, so.

As for that monitor, NO, unless you plan on getting an AMD GPU. You have an Nvidia GPU and that one uses AMD's Freesync, not Nvidia's G-Sync. AMD offered use of Freesync free to Nvidia, but they refused.

And I also advise getting an AMD GPU that can maintain at least 40 FPS on all games you play if you DO plan on getting that monitor. Freesync is not like G-Sync. G-Sync doesn't have issues regardless how low the frame rate dips. Freesync though has serious screen tearing if you dip below the display's refresh window, which for that display is 40Hz-75Hz.

That said, G-Sync displays cost a lot more than Freesync ones because they require Nvidia's G-Sync hardware.

Dogg1e · Nov 12, 2017

Frag Maniac :

But that being said, i dont see myself finding another monitor for gaming purpose. the monitor that i posted cost me 270 dollars in my country, and is the only monitor with 1 ms, 60 hz and 8 bit colours, if u could help me with other models or another monitors, i would really appreciate that from you.
In my country the cheapest monitor with G sync cost me 600 dollars, so is way out of the budget

Frag Maniac · Nov 13, 2017

Let me get back to you on that after watching Shark Tank and The Walking Dead.

...after a bit of searching, I narrowed it down to this one. It's a fairly good choice for gamers on a budget, and is available in your area.

Dell ® Monitor 24 "Gamer SE2417HG

It runs about $150 at Amazon US, and the price at PC Factory in your country is roughly equivalent to $200 USD, so not too bad.

https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/26099-monitor-24-gamer-se2417hg

On Amazon this model across all it's sizes has well over 900 reviews averaging 4.5/5 stars. It is very low in input lag too, which helps in fast shooters, racing, and fighter games.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Gaming-Monitor-SE2417HG-Response/dp/B0197FRKCY

Dogg1e · Nov 14, 2017

finally i bought the one u said and im very happy with it.
Thanks man!

Frag Maniac · Nov 14, 2017

Dogg1e :

Great, yeah Dell monitors usually have very good image quality.

You're welcome for the help, the least I can do for the red grapes your country ships us. Best damn grapes on the planet if you ask me.

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