Is it needed to upgrade from 8gb to 16gb ram?

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Good evening,

I'm currently running the specification stated below but im facing a ''problem''.
Since cod ww2 came out i bought a new gpu but the frame rate is no ware near stable, even if i run it at lowest settings!
I know its poorly optimized and stuff it feels like a port, but i should be able to manage it maxed out because i also run btf1 maxed..!?
Now i went to rivatuner for some extra info and i saw that my Ram is sky rocketing even with btf1 but there it manages.
It uses around 6500-7200 so litterely everything i've got, I've seen people ''benchmarking'' btf1 reaching 9-10,000 so is my ram the bottleneck?
Overal btf1 runs quite smooth with high fps, but sometimes it drops to -+55 fps from like a stable 80-90+ and when this happens the ram seems to squeeze out a bit more.

Is it worth to drop that 80€ to dubble the ram to 16gb? and will this fix my problem..?
The GPU also runs at 99-100%.

Specs-

Motherboard - acer ipisb-vr rev 1.01
Cpu - i7-2600
Gpu - ASUS DUAL-RX580-O8G
PSU - 500w
HDD - 2x 1tb 7200rpm
RAM - 8gb, 2x4 (Brand unknown pre build) Iknow its DDR3 Dual 1333mhz and 9/9/9/24 clocks
 
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The Crucial Scanner only came up with 1600+ mhz ram my current ram is 1333+- so i need as close as i can get to that.
will this one work? http://

Or http://

Also of course in the near future i need to upgrade my CPU because its quite old, i don't know how long it will keep up running new games @max settings.
So the problem is with the socket change of intel 1155 to 1151 when i upgrade my cpu i need to upgrade my mobo.
I'm thinking of buying a mobo that has the 1151 port and DDR3 instead of DDR4, but i've read that the new 1151 doesn't work great with DDR3 and kills it?
I'm thinking about this option because its cheaper new mobo,cpu,16gb DDR4, quickly add up to a lot of money lol...

Is this a good reliable option? or should i just save up and upgrade big time? <- will take awhile lol..
I'm not sure if you can give me more info about how long my cpu may last with new games?
I was looking into overclocking the cpu but its not K so its not possible? i tried the turbo boost but it doesn't really work.. or i'm doing it wrong, CPU-Z still says 3.4ghz instead of 3.8ghz.

Also thanks for the quick reply!
 
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I did further testing and i ran into another ''problem''.
When playing cod ww2 i get
-Unstable GPU usage, like really unstable 20-100% and 8-100% some times <- can this be driver related? didn't have this problem before, settings don't make a difference low/max.
-uses 7400 RAM
-CPU = 60-65% (70 Degrees Celsius)
The fps doesn't stay stable settings don't make a difference only in max fps but still drop to the same lowest! even on lowest resolution.... Cods fault?

I also tested battlefield 1 again on amiens wich is most demanding what i've read,
I still get stable +-75 fps but on demanding fights it drops to 55.
The cpu usage in btf1 was quite high also.

-CPU = 80-90%max (74-75 Degrees Celsius)
-GPU = 80-90-100% but it also drops like cod does.
-RAM = maxes out around 7300.

What can i do about this problem? or is upgrade the only option?

Can this be caused by RAM? that its using paging files because i have insufficient ram and that it slows down my games?
And drops the fps?

 
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I assume BTF1 is Battlefield 1? I've always called the Battlefield series BF with no T?

Regardless, Battlefield works better with 16GB but not that much better. It's more likely that CPU/platform just isn't cutting it anymore. 55 FPS is not really all that bad and I've heard of 6600Ks dropping in to the 30s with that game. It is super thread heavy and your i7 helps a lot but it's an old i7 and it is is a non-overclockable i7 so it's starting to get pretty outdated at this point.

I do have a few more questions:

Are you running Windows 10? If so are you using DX11 or DX12? BF1 is not know to be a great DX12 title but it can help with older CPUs.

Now I don't think you have an actual problem but just in case:
This is a prebuilt computer right? I wonder if the 500 watt power supply can actually put out 500Watts...If it's from 2011 like the CPU it's probably degraded some but that would usually result in crashes not slowdowns. Temperatures might also be an issue. Low 70s were considered acceptable on sandy so you should be ok but I'm not sure what the throttle point is. Has the cooler ever been cleaned? Is it a stock cooler?

I hate to say it but Sandy Bridge was great...it really is starting to get outdated now though and if 55 FPS isn't good enough you need to start looking at a new rig. If you said it's dropping to 20FPS I'd be concerned but 55+ in the slowest parts seems typical and reasonable for that machine.

EDIT: MAX Tcase on that CPU is 72.3C so 74 is possibly over the max and causing throttling. Get your temps down. Clean your cooler, replace the thermal paste (5 year lifespan max on thermal paste) or get a better one that fits the case.
 
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I'm using windows 7 now i reverted back! i faced a problem with stutter and audio freezing on the pc overall not just games with windows 10 :/
Tech support fixed that and it was gone for like 6 months, but unfortunately it came back and i didn't get good tech support for the 2nd time.. they told me my pc wasn't compatible so there was nothing they could do, kinda weird because it already got fixed once.

Yes this is an really old PSU came with the pc and its 500W however Riva tuner reports back that my GPU gets 144+- watt when in OC mode, So i don't think thats the problem.
My CPU does't come above 75C and it continues to run at a full 3592 Mhz! so i don't think overheating is a problem either. <-(can i boost this somehow with better cooling?)
It does use the stock cooler i think i replaced the paste a few years back when i also redid the paste for my old gpu and i clean the dust like every 6 months at least its not that dirty atm.
My GPU also doesn't pass 75C i use the automatic fan control on that and it also runs full capacity.

In BF1 the fps does not go below 55 most of the times its stable 70+(on the ground fights)! it only drops to around 50 sometimes not that often once or twice per match and it isn't really noticeable.

The only game (that i know off atm) is COD WW2.... Lowest settings +low resolution/ maxed out max resolution don't make a difference really. it ran better on my asus gtx 760 OC...

While playing i see my RAM go to like 6-7000 <- thinks this is the physical ram.
And the other one gets to 10000 <- this must be paging files because i don't have that much physical ram available.
So a ram upgrade will make my games faster my theory is that my cpu and gpu ect are waiting on the paging files and that reduces/drops FPS ?!
While ram is quite expensive and it might not work +i want to upgrade my whole pc over the next year or so isn't it a better option to buy a good SSD? like this onehttp://?
if its the paging files this ssd wil speed up my pc? because its probably a hell of a lot faster than a 7200rpm HDD.
And its less of a ''waste'' because i can put it in my next pc.

 
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