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I recently built a new gaming pc. It’s nice and I can run older games at high graphics, and newer ones with medium to high graphics depending on the game. FPS on newer games is usually in the 40 to 60 range. For my cpu I have a Amd Ryzen 1300x, and my gpu is the Gigabyte GTX 1060 mini ITX.

I want to play my games on the highest settings possible and higher frame rates than 40-60, so I’m planning on upgrading in the next couple of months. I’m just not sure if I should upgrade my cpu or gpu first. When I check the requirements for newer games it’s usually the cpu that has issues, so I thought I’d upgrade that first. This is my first build so I was hoping I could get some advice.

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I think you have a reasonably well balanced pc.
It is not clear what you might find good for an upgrade.

Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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I lowered my graphics settings and the fps stayed in the 40-60 range. So I’m thinking I should upgrade my cpu first. The one I was looking at was the AMD ryzen 5-1600x. I don’t think I’d need a ryzen 7 or anything that powerful if I’m looking to play games on ultra, but I could be wrong.
 
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Your ryzen 1300x is a 4 thread processor.
It has a passmark rating of 7336 when all threads are fully utilized and 1845 for a single thread.
Which number is more important will depend on the games you play.
Upgrading to 1600X will give you 12 threads and a rating of 13353 and 1961.
Have you overclocked your cpu?
If not, do so.
I suspect that will be a decent help.
It turns out that all ryzen chips have about the same 4.0 overclocking limit.
The difference among models is in how many threads you get, and perhaps a slightly stronger bin capable of getting near 4.0

Many threads is good for multiplayer games.
Most others depend on the performance of the single master thread.
You might try the experiment of disabling one thread and see if it is a major impact on your games.





 
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I don’t play a ton of multiplayer games. Most ofmy games consist of big opens world rpgs, or simulation games like sim city. Do I need an aftermarket cooler to Overclock or should the stock cooler be fine?
 
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