AMD 1700x Ryzen "Budget" Build - RAM speed problem

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
A

amdizzle

Prominent
Nov 9, 2017
6
0
510
Question: How can I get my G.Skill Trident Z 3200 RGB CL16 RAM to actually run at 3200MHz?

System
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 Black and White (Stormtrooper)
MOBO: Asus ROG Strix Gaming F - X370
PSU: EVGA Supernova 850 Gold
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 3200 RGB CL16
CPU: Ryzen 1700x @ 3.8GHz (mild overclock from 3.4GHz)
GPU: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB (stock settings)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool Gammax 400 (basic air cooler)
Monitor: 65" Samsung 4k HDR Television

Settings: DRAM Voltage - 1.375 (RAM says 1.35 V)
VSOC Voltage - 0.956
VTTDDR - 0.66
Timings are set to the specs on the RAM - CL of 16 with 16,18,18,38

CPU Voltage - 1.35
CPU Multiplier - x38
Bclk - 100 MHz
*Motherboard BIOS is fully updated to Sep 2017 Revision"

I can only get stability at ~3000MHz for some reason. Otherwise, Windows 10 "needs to restart my PC" every so often or games lock up after 10-30 minutes (seems to lock up quicker on new games like Witcher 3 and Mass Effect: Andromeda; Bioshock Infinity can go for longer but still locks up) I can usually hit the Windows key and close the game before my PC has an issue, but not always. I tried bumping DRAM Voltage to 1.385 but it still didn't work for very long. I had strange issues like applications failing to start and not detecting video card drivers, etc. When I use the settings listed above at a speed of 3066MHz, I have no issues for hours on Mass Effect, 1080p, Ultra settings.

I don't think it's a CPU issue. I tried running the CPU at 3.9GHz for about 30 minutes with the RAM set at 2133MHz and it was fine. My CPU temp never climbed above 65 degrees. I dialed the CPU back to 3.8GHZ just to be safe. I'm not looking for an extreme overclock here - just want the RAM to run at 3200MHz since I've read that Ryzen does well at this speed. I'm almost thinking that I just got a bad draw of RAM since it won't work at rated speed and voltage...

This is my first PC build since back when I was DOS - prompting into DOOM so I'm probably missing something. I don't want to do anything too extreme with the voltages or overclocking, but I would like to have a well performing, STABLE machine. Any advice is appreciated. Please be specific about methodology and recommended settings. My overclocking utility is called "AI Tweaker" so it's different than "Extreme Tweaker". I use the system primarily for gaming on a 65" 4k TV, so I know I'll need to upgrade my GPU. I'm waiting until Volta comes out to make a purchase since the R9 390 is still performing well at 1080p on high+ presets. It even handles 4K (30Hz) with medium to high settings on most games.

Thanks!



 
Solution
Dark Lord of Tech
Sort by date Sort by votes
A

amdizzle

Prominent
Nov 9, 2017
6
0
510
SR - 71 I suspected that was the case. Maybe future motherboard updates will help, though I've found through research that they were supposed to have most of the bugs worked out. Oh well. The strange thing is that I accidentally set my timings to 14-14-14-14-34 for a while and I didn't have issues @ 2933 MHz. Is this something I can attempt to run at long term? Or does changing timings introduce other risks?

vapour - 1. I don't use the pre-adjusted DOCP profiles at all. I tried using them and they don't work, even at lower RAM speeds. I don't know what XMP is, I'm sorry. I can deduce from context clues that it is an automatic overclocker, but I'm not even sure how to get to it through my BIOS (or if my mobo even has it).
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
A

amdizzle

Prominent
Nov 9, 2017
6
0
510
vapour 2. No, I have not done stability testing - mostly because I didn't know what programs to use. I will try the ones you recommended this evening. I did do the UserBenchmark test, which is a very basic snapshot of system performance. It's not a true benchmark, but it seems capable of alerting you any major under-performing components. The RAM and CPU were "above expectations" for their particular models.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Dark Lord of Tech

Dark Lord of Tech

Retired Moderator
Aug 18, 2009
128,614
1,778
159,590



I would stick to your stable 3000mhz. , hopefully more updates in the future will help. You've done very well with your adjustments...Congrats.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Solution
A

amdizzle

Prominent
Nov 9, 2017
6
0
510
Yes, stock settings were coming out at 15,15,15,15,39. I just locked them in at 16,16,18,18,38 as the RAM specifies. I also had to up the voltage to 1.375 to keep the RAM stable. The VDDR is at 0.956 (up from 0.85 stock) based on other people's stable settings and my real world testing. VTTDDR is at 0.66 V (up from 0.6 V stock).

I tried using the DOCP profile for 3200MHz - then just slowing down the RAM speed, but it didn't work either. The system always boots anywhere near the current settings, but it has problems while playing games. It must be the speed. If it was only a RAM problem I'm guessing it wouldn't even boot or the system would actually crash - rather than just freezing the game. The rest of the PC is unaffected when it happens - I can even search the internet about why my game is frozen while it's still sitting there frozen. At 3000MHz, everything is great for as long as I can play.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
A

amdizzle

Prominent
Nov 9, 2017
6
0
510
Okay, that makes sense. I didn't know much about RAM when I purchased everything. Apparently G. Skill makes the same exact RAM I got but with an "X" at the end of the model number which denotes that it is "optimized for AMD". My RAM is not listed on the QVL so I guess I'm just happy it's running as well as it is. Even with the RAM issues, I'm still very happy with the Ryzen build. It is now running stable and cool at 3.9 GHz on the CPU and 2933 MHz on the RAM - both at 1.35 Volts and stock timing on the RAM.

Thank you for your responses and guidance. Hopefully more people will try AMD as the knowledge base and maturity increases.

Thanks!
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom