Stuttering while playing games.

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 16, 2017

Constant stuttering while playing games.
My PC specs are:
Ryzen 5 1600 CPU overclocked at 3,7GHz;
GTX ROG STRIX 1060 6GB GPU;
MSI 350M GAMING PRO Motherboard;
8GB DDR4 RAM;
550W PSU;
Windows 10 PRO N OS.

Games tried: Battlefield 1 (Multiplayer), Fortnite, Paladins and sometimes in CS:GO.
Temps are below 70 degrees C.

richiestang_78 · Nov 16, 2017

Have you tried a clean install of your drivers? First try using the clean install option within the Nvidia custom installation option, if that doesnt work you could use DDU and try again.

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 16, 2017

Yes, I've tried clean install of the drivers, didn't help.

richiestang_78 · Nov 16, 2017

Found this on a reddit post

Setting Maximum Pre-rendered Frames to 1 completely fixed my stuttering issue from the Nvidia Control panel.

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 16, 2017

I will try this and post my results.
EDIT: It's alredy set to 1.

richiestang_78 · Nov 16, 2017

What PSU do you have exactly?

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 16, 2017

be quiet SYSTEM POWER b8 550W

boju · Nov 16, 2017

Check your pagefile usage on your hdd, if its quite huge reaching onwards to 10gb or more then upgrading to 16gb ram will help that.

Games today are putting more and more data into vram and ram then to hdd if not enough. Too much hdd usage will cause stuttering and bf1 can be obe of those games that do so.

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 16, 2017

How do i check the pagefile usage?

boju · Nov 16, 2017

Read through this

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-windows-10s-resource-monitor-to-track-memory-usage/

Bf1 is resourse hog and running dual channel ram config can make a significant difference. If your memory is 1x 8gb, search bf1 dual channel ram.

In other less intensive games like csgo if your stuttering here, is it micro stutter or huge frame drops?

If micro stutter then your monitor can't keep up and frames are being dropped as the gpu is displaying more frames then the monitor can handle. Vsync helps but there is lag. Enabling pre-rendered frames may help lag but vsync must be turned on for it to work. Use fast sync instead of vsync + pre-rendered combo, its far better as it tells the gpu to keep rendering a frame for the display instead of dropping. Results in much less stutter and also tearing like vsync.

Having gpu set to prefer maximum performance can help instead of optimal. Optimal can break performance.

If you're getting frame spikes/ huge drops in less intensive games there's something else wrong. Possibly a process eating too much memory or Ms updates? Check resourse manager on processes under memory and search the process you think looks too big. Do a malware scan also.

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 16, 2017

I'm getting micro stutters.
I currently have 1x8gb of RAM, would my problems be solved if I get another one or is my GPU not that good for Fortnite/BF1 at Medium/High settings?

boju · Nov 16, 2017

Yes certainly 16gb and dual channel will help a lot. If your on a 60hz monitor use fast sync. The option for fast sync is in the vsync menu

boju · Nov 16, 2017

1060 is good enough

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 17, 2017

Thank you for your replies. One more question, if i buy one more 8GB RAM stick, does it have to be the same as the original or only the MHz have to be the same?

boju · Nov 17, 2017

Mixing ram is never a sure thing but to better your chances of success is to get indentical in terms of cas timings, mhz as you say and voltage.

Memory are sold in kits for this reason and as theyre rolled off production line those in the same batch are bundled for closest possible matches.

If you keep to exact specification youll probably be fine but there is that slight chance they wont work together.

boju · Nov 17, 2017

Keep us updated with how you go

RX1542 · Nov 17, 2017

wait why are you suggesting to buy another ram stick? his problem is probably a bad windows setting, i had this issue on w10, clean install, fixed it for me, since i messed with a lot of stuff on my old w10 couldn't tell what was causing them, if you can't reinstall, then download ccleaner and use it on files and registry, if you have messed with services go and turn them on again

boju · Nov 17, 2017

I know youre trying to help RX1542 its just confusing things. 16gb will improve a lot and should be minimum today anyway for anyone building a gaming pc with a gpu with more than 2gb vram. Pagefile activity is getting rediculouse with demanding games and you search and look at people having problems maxing games like Gta5 and Bf1 on 4gb vram cards or more with 8gb ram, its just not enough ram these days.

dobcho_dns1234 · Nov 17, 2017

Tried my brothers 8gb RAM, its another model bt did the work, most of the stuttering, if not all was gone, was able to play fortnite on epic settings with stable 60-90+ fps, after i changed my motherboard, I had to do a clean install of my Windows, so I guess the only solution is a new RAM, which i'll get soon.
Thank you for your help boju.

TL;DR: Adding more RAM fixed my issue.

RX1542 · Nov 17, 2017

boju :

oh srry i wasn't aware of that, can you explain why having a gpu with more than 2gb vram requires you to have more ram?, as for what you say about ram being 8 as minimum i get ya, upgraded to 16 last year and turned off that nasty pagefile.

boju · Nov 17, 2017

Good question RX1542

How I understand it is vram is used not just to render your screen but used as storage as well. Developers try to make game experience smooth as possible by loading as much data into vram and also system memory ready to be used.

People don't need to max out a game and vram but they do if the performance and quality is there.

A game that caches so much video data, 4gb worth for example along with other game related stuff into system memory can overwhelm all available hardware level memory. Virtual memory is created to keep the system stable and used as backup incase the game needs to pull something back that was dropped from system memory because of lack of space. Some games, the longer it's played the bigger the pagefile (virtual memory) gets.

Depends on how well games are optmised also, not every game is going to create monsterous pagefiles but those that do, having more ram will help keep hdd usage to minimal. No worse performance when the hdd ticks over while you play, especially for mechanical drives.

SSD's help a lot with virtual memory but still system ram and vram is much faster and more capacity you have the better.

Back in the day systems with 2gb vram cards and games/resolutions played, 8gb ram was plenty.

RX1542 · Nov 18, 2017

wow didn't know that, thanks for the explanation, damn to think that in next few years 8gb is going to completely be the "minimum requirement", i feel old, anyway that info was very useful, thanks for taking the time to answer

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