Coffee Lake Work On My Mobo

Shawry111 · Nov 16, 2017

Question is in the title, I currently have an i5 6600 (non-K version) and I am looking to upgrade to the Coffee Lake i5-8600K, I see they both have 1151 socket (although on the website I am looking at it says 1151-2) so will this fit on my ASUS Z170-AR?

If it can't, which I am pretty sure the answer is going to be no, should I get a new motherboard, or get an i7-6700K or an i7-7700K, which has better performance? They are both priced around the same here in New Zealand.

EDIT:

Looking for an upgrade as my i5 now (with a silly software), was overclocking itself REALLY high, and now it's a bit damaged and runs strangely.

R_1 · Nov 16, 2017

no your motherboard can only support 6xxx and 7xxx chips. only 6th and 7th gen. coffee lake will require/demand a new motherboard.
the 7700k would be the fastest chip your board can handle

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3647vs3502
for a general idea only

Shawry111 · Nov 16, 2017

R_1 :

Okay so I apparently need to update my BIOS in order to be able to have the CPU, how do I find out my BIOS version? I understand there is a risk in updating the BIOS so I am quite scared to do so.

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-AR/HelpDesk_CPU/

Now what it says makes little sense to me, I don't know much about motherboards and what not, is it a straightforward process to download that through their page and do it? If I have a Skylake CPU installed at the time will it not work? What is BIOS flashing? Ugh, I don't know, it's probably a simple process but it is beyond the mind of the average ape. Should I just get a 6700k?

R_1 · Nov 16, 2017

download CPUz from cpuid.com. install it and click mainboard. the middle box is the BIOS info. the current version will be there.

to support the 7700k you will need BIOS version 3007 according to the support list here
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-AR/HelpDesk_CPU/

it is not that difficult but there are dangers. read your motherboard manual for exact instructions, but basically you download the file, copy to a thumb drive, reboot into the BIOS - windows 10 users will need to go through the settings to get system to boot to BIOS. there should be a utility in the BIOS to install the file.

dangers - improper flash could kill motherboard. electrical fluctuations, low grade memory chips, USB translation issues, any of these can occur. it sounds scary but you can also get struck by lightning. proper care greatly lowers odds.
you will need a skylake processor in order to make the board ready for the 7th generation chip - a skylake is required at this point.

BIOS or Basic Input Output Systems, is the OS the motherboard has to use. it tells the motherboard what memory settings to use, what the CPU settings are. they are stored on an EEPROM - Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory which is a fancy way of saying a programmable chip. the BIOS is the program on the chip, and updates to that program (flashing) can enable new features like the next gen CPU support you are seeking.

if you want to overclock the 6700k to make up the slight performance boost and save a headache it is your decision.

Shawry111 · Nov 17, 2017

R_1 :

download CPUz from cpuid.com. install it and click mainboard. the middle box is the BIOS info. the current version will be there.

to support the 7700k you will need BIOS version 3007 according to the support list here
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-AR/HelpDesk_CPU/

it is not that difficult but there are dangers. read your motherboard manual for exact instructions, but basically you download the file, copy to a thumb drive, reboot into the BIOS - windows 10 users will need to go through the settings to get system to boot to BIOS. there should be a utility in the BIOS to install the file.

dangers - improper flash could kill motherboard. electrical fluctuations, low grade memory chips, USB translation issues, any of these can occur. it sounds scary but you can also get struck by lightning. proper care greatly lowers odds.
you will need a skylake processor in order to make the board ready for the 7th generation chip - a skylake is required at this point.

BIOS or Basic Input Output Systems, is the OS the motherboard has to use. it tells the motherboard what memory settings to use, what the CPU settings are. they are stored on an EEPROM - Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory which is a fancy way of saying a programmable chip. the BIOS is the program on the chip, and updates to that program (flashing) can enable new features like the next gen CPU support you are seeking.

if you want to overclock the 6700k to make up the slight performance boost and save a headache it is your decision.

Do you think, considering my motherboard is old and lacks support for future products, should I spend $250 more and get a 8th Gen i7 or a Ryzen CPU? Or is there really no need? In your opinion. I think that I will just get a 6700k, but I would like to see what your opinion on this would be?

R_1 · Nov 17, 2017

the differences between the 6xxx and the 7xxx would need benchmarks to register. I do not see any advantage at all to upgrading the motherboard at this time. the 6700 is an admirable performer and will remain one for the next couple years. my 8 yr old 955 black is still chugging along.
IDK your needs or budget, but doubling the thread count with an i7 and removing any other bottlenecks in the system will be better than building a new system IMHO.

the board lacks support for future but you have not maxxed it yet. call me a tightwad but I expect great return for my money. you can double the thread count, max the RAM, eliminate the storage bottleneck, and maybe a GPU or two before a 6700k will NEED replacing.
if you want any longevity in a system you MUST have a good power supply to feed everything.

Shawry111 · Nov 21, 2017

R_1 :

the differences between the 6xxx and the 7xxx would need benchmarks to register. I do not see any advantage at all to upgrading the motherboard at this time. the 6700 is an admirable performer and will remain one for the next couple years. my 8 yr old 955 black is still chugging along.
IDK your needs or budget, but doubling the thread count with an i7 and removing any other bottlenecks in the system will be better than building a new system IMHO.

the board lacks support for future but you have not maxxed it yet. call me a tightwad but I expect great return for my money. you can double the thread count, max the RAM, eliminate the storage bottleneck, and maybe a GPU or two before a 6700k will NEED replacing.
if you want any longevity in a system you MUST have a good power supply to feed everything.

That's what I thought, 6700K it is then! Thanks.

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