Gtx 1060 3gb or gtx 1050ti even if bottlenecked a little with i5 3470

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I have an i5 3470 which i can overclock a little but I don’t. Budget is strictly under $250 and the gpus are rarely available at the prices they are now. Gtx 1050ti $195 and gtx 1060 is $255. So i want to game at 1080p and I know I will get bottlenecks if I buy the 1060 and it has less vram but still will it be better down the line or should I just buy the 1050ti and maybe get an ssd or a better cooler?
 
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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Ti_Gaming_X/27.html

The GTX1060 3GB averages 50% faster (i.e. 60FPS vs 40FPS) for games with no CPU bottleneck.

CPU BOTTLENECKING:
This will happen in many games, however the amount will vary from almost NOTHING in some games to significant in some.

As said the VRAM isn't a big issue, especially at the settings you'd choose for 60FPS (or so) gaming. Even if you found out there WAS an issue (which tends to show up as sudden, big FPS drops though that can happen for other reasons) you could adjust your graphic settings such as dropping the AA from 8xMSAA to 4xMSAA.

Having said that, I don't know of many games that would happen in. Chances are it's a complete non-issue right now for...
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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Ti_Gaming_X/27.html

The GTX1060 3GB averages 50% faster (i.e. 60FPS vs 40FPS) for games with no CPU bottleneck.

CPU BOTTLENECKING:
This will happen in many games, however the amount will vary from almost NOTHING in some games to significant in some.

As said the VRAM isn't a big issue, especially at the settings you'd choose for 60FPS (or so) gaming. Even if you found out there WAS an issue (which tends to show up as sudden, big FPS drops though that can happen for other reasons) you could adjust your graphic settings such as dropping the AA from 8xMSAA to 4xMSAA.

Having said that, I don't know of many games that would happen in. Chances are it's a complete non-issue right now for you.

So... your choices are:

1) constantly lower FPS in probably every game, or
2) POSSIBLY some FPS drops in a handful of games (which you can address via tweaking the settings).

OTHER:
I suggest you learn how to use Adaptive VSYNC. Here's how I use it for Assassin's Creed Unity:

1) open the game and close it (to add to top of list)
2) NVidia CP-> manage 3d settings-> program settings-> add game

3) select "adaptive VSYNC" then save
4) TWEAK the game settings until you get the best balance of visuals, with occasional drops below 60FPS (if 60Hz monitor) but otherwise maintain 60FPS about 90% of the time

(You may want to have VSYNC OFF then tweak the game settings first until it appears like you are about 60 to 70FPS most of the time... once Adaptive VSYNC is on if screen tearing is too frequent then drop a few settings like MSAA to raise the average FPS and limit the drops below 60FPS.)
 
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About the CPU... I don't understand how you would OVERCLOCK it anyway. It's not a "K" series and while you can adjust the BASECLOCK likely I think that also affects the PCIe bus which means anything attached to that can have problems.

I don't think I've heard of an overclock more than 5% via this method. So no need for a new CPU cooler (unless you want the fan to be quieter)

As per an SSD that's not going to affect your gaming much aside from LOAD TIMES though it's pretty costly especially when some games take up a big chunk of a 250GB SSD.

There's a handful of games that stutter on HDD's due to texture loading though. The new PREY game is one of those. Without an SSD it will stutter constantly (on my machine at least, but I'm fairly certain that's the same elsewhere).

Most other games are fine. Either way, on a budget an SSD and/or CPU cooler is not worth it compared to a graphics card upgrade.
 
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Other: there may be some good HOLIDAY sales before X-Mas and/or Boxing Day etc.

Also, there are cheaper GTX1060 6GB cards (USD pricing?):
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ft7CmG/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10600a-10l
or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pbL7YJ/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6161-kr

THIS one is great... it is $260USD after $20 rebate (I hate rebates but if you can use it then I guess it's okay):
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KqRFf7/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-ssc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6264-kr

The DUAL FAN cards will be quieter under load than the single fan. The single-fan EVGA is probably "okay" if the case has adequate cooling and the ambient room temperature isn't too hot but I'd recommend the extra money and get two fans.
 
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I know its not a k series processor but till ivy bridge you could tweak the clock speeds a bit using intel oc software but I have left it to 3.2ghz and at 100 percent load it reaches about 65 degrees so that’s pretty acceptable. What I understood from this thread is that I should buy the 1060 3gb am I correct, sorry for sounding a bit stupid as it’s my first pc.
 
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I know its not a k series processor but till ivy bridge you could tweak the clock speeds a bit using intel oc software but I have left it to 3.2ghz and at 100 percent load it reaches about 65 degrees so that’s pretty acceptable. What I understood from this thread is that I should buy the 1060 3gb am I correct, sorry for sounding a bit stupid as it’s my first pc.
 
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yes, the 1060 3gb is the better choice.
 
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Yes. GTX1060 3GB.... though did you look at my GTX1060 6GB links?

I guess for "overclocking" it may be possible to go into the motherboard BIOS, then look for the "multiplier" settings related to TURBO BOOST and change those to maximum for every core combo setting (i.e. 1-core, 2-core... 4-core) which is x36

So 36x 100MHz (the base clock) would give 3.6GHz.

3.6GHz is what you can achieve during partial load, but sometimes you can force the BIOS to do that even when all four cores are under full load.

I'm not sure if your BIOS will allow that or not (Windows software like Intel's overclocking tool can't do anything that the BIOS can't itself do.. if you CAN modify any values then what I suggest is the best)

It only helps a small amount as your sustained gaming frequency might already be 3.3 or 3.4GHz.
 
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