Will upgrading my Motherboard, CPU and RAM help with frame drops

jonathan.rofail · Nov 22, 2017

Hello

I play games like Overwatch and recently decided to clean my desktop inside of dust because it has caused my fps to drop in the past, before I cleaned it of the dust whenever I went into a battle or where there are lots of players my game would drop to 30-40fps. Now that I have cleaned it it is at 60fps which is where I want it to be at my monitor has a 60Hz refresh rate and I believe 60 fps is the most my Nvida Geforce GTX 650 card can run on a game like Overwatch I think, maybe it can run more but I don't know if I can have it run more if my refresh rate on my monitor is 60Hz or should I not cap my fps at same as what the refresh rate is?

What my problem is at the moment is after a while of playing my fps just drops randomly. I am looking into getting a new Motherboard, CPU and RAM and I have found a great bundle deal on a website.
My Operating system is Windows 10 I will give my current specs and the New Motherboard, CPU and RAM specs:

Current:

Motherboard: I do not know exactly what Motherboard it is, I cant find the Motherboards model number I tried to find it under msinfo32 but it says the baseboard model is unavailabe. I do believe it is a "Asus P5KPL EPU Motherboard" or close.

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40Ghz, 2394Mhz 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

RAM: 4096MB RAM

New Option 1 (Cheaper than option 2 and I am on a budget):

Motherboard: MSI A320M PRO-VD AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD A6 9500 Dual Core AM4 3.8GHz

RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM Gray

New Option 2:

Motherboard: MSI A320M PRO-VD AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD A8 9600 Quad Core AM4 3.4GHz

RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM Grey

Both the Motherboards run DirectX 12.

The Motherboards and RAM in Option 1 and 2 do not differ it is only the CPU that changes and it makes the bundle more expensive.

Will this fix the fps drops?
Thanks in advance!

Zerk2012 · Nov 22, 2017

Your 650 video card should still be better than built in graphics

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $269.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-22 16:54 EST-0500

jonathan.rofail · Nov 22, 2017

Zerk2012 :

That is a bit far out of my budget range, and I will be using my GTX 650 with the MSI A320M PRO-VD AMD Motherboard. I wanna know if the Motherboard, CPU and RAM upgrade will increase my performance.
Thanks in advance.

jonathan.rofail · Nov 23, 2017

I went and tested, my graphics card can go more than 60fps in the game, and I can get my monitors refresh rate up to 75Hz on a lower resolution so I went and set the cap of my fps ingame to 75 but it doesn't stay at 75 it drops down to 60-70 or more when playing.

helpstar · Nov 23, 2017

if it´s dropping randomly, check temperatures
run prime95 option smallFFT with coretemp for about 10minutes
run furmark

run 3dmark basic edition (it´s for free), after the benchmark click on compare result online and post the address which comes up in your browser
https://www.futuremark.com/support/downloads

helpstar · Nov 23, 2017

A6 and A8 are not for using an additional graphics card, have a look into something like:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7JBvhq
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $214.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-23 04:24 EST-0500

jonathan.rofail · Nov 23, 2017

Thanks a lot now I understand what Zerk2012 meant when he said my card is better than the built in one.

I have gotten my fps op quite a bit and will check on the heat in the programs you linked I will download them later I cant at the moment.

Thanks again for the help and info.

jonathan.rofail · Nov 23, 2017

I can give my desktops temperatures from Speccy

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 38 °C
Kentsfield 65nm Technology
RAM
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (5-5-5-18)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5KPL-VM-MUSTEK-SI (Socket 775) 58 °C
Graphics
ASUS VS228 (1920x1080@60Hz)
1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (ASUStek Computer Inc) 34 °C
Storage
465GB Seagate ST3500320AS ATA Device (SATA) 41 °C
465GB Seagate ST3500630AS ATA Device (SATA) 46 °C
Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

helpstar · Nov 23, 2017

a new platform could stabilize the drops to like 50fps in overwatch, but you won´t get more fps with your GTX650

which graphics options are set ingame? medium or low? resolution?

jonathan.rofail · Nov 23, 2017

helpstar :

Is a new platform a new Motherboard?

I run overwatch on everything low except character models and my resolution is 1280x1024 at the moment because on that resolution I can get a 70-75 refresh rate with my monitor.

helpstar · Nov 23, 2017

new platform is motherboard+ CPU + RAM

jonathan.rofail · Nov 23, 2017

helpstar :

Ok thanks for the help I'm getting pretty good fps at the moment in Overwatch I will watch the temperature on my desktop and clean it every now and then. Would you recommend making holes in the side of my desktop case? because it is very closed and I think it is heating up the components.

After cleaning it the otherday my frames went from 30-40 to 50-60 average, all the dust the fans had gathered inside was causing it to heat up more.

Before it was cleaned when the temperature outside cooled off the fps drops would stop.

The opening on my case look very similar to this but my desktop is just a bit bigger

New-Small-micro-ATX-CS-2002-PC-Desktop-Chassis-Case-Computer-Chassis-[2]-10415-p.jpg

AniChatt · Nov 23, 2017

jonathan.rofail :

Clean it properly and if possible install a 80mm (it seems) fan in the side panel (having 4 screw holes) it will help to reduce the temp a lot. Just check the intake fan is dated and slow or not and if so change it too. Few more tips,
1. Check the condition of case fans and replace if not good.
2. Try to remove the cpu cooler and clean the old thermal paste and apply any cheap thermal paste from reputed company like cooler master, arctic. e.g. cm value series. It will help to reduce temp of cpu.
3. Buy some mobo cleaning solution and clean the entire mobo, gpu if you can. Otherwise clean it with a blower.
4. Install a HW info programme to monitor temp and other stats on screen with the help of RTSS. Google it for setup.

helpstar · Nov 23, 2017

Would do point 2 and nothing else. All other attempts could possibly damage the really old hardware.

Cleaning is fine if it wasn´t done for a while, like 1 to 2 years. If the temperature of the components are fine, don´t bother.

AniChatt · Nov 23, 2017

helpstar :

Hmm, just to add if he has no idea how to do this, trying point 2 may cause some damage becs there is a high chance that the old cooler will be tightly glued with the cpu lid as it is very very old.
However if you don't have any idea what may go wrong try to add one more fan in the side panel if possible and leave everything else as it is. But if you know someone then use his help. It will definitely increase life of those components.

jonathan.rofail · Nov 23, 2017

AniChatt :

helpstar :

Hmm, just to add if he has no idea how to do this, trying point 2 may cause some damage becs there is a high chance that the old cooler will be tightly glued with the cpu lid as it is very very old.
However if you don't have any idea what may go wrong try to add one more fan in the side panel if possible and leave everything else as it is. But if you know someone then use his help. It will definitely increase life of those components.

I do know someone that knows how to apply the new thermal paste thanks for the information and help everyone

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