Thinking of upgrading thoughts on ryzen?

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Hi so my current set up is as follows;
i7 3770k @ 4.2ghz
1080ti FE
16gb ddr3 @ 1866
1440p monitor @ 165hz

As the title stats I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu as my i7 3770k is slightly bottlenecking my gpu. With the 8700k being pretty much sold out all the time I was looking towards and r7 1800x. I've been looking at benchmarks and it seems ryzen behind on gaming performance but I'd like to hear some of the opinions from people actually using this set up.
 
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Right now AMD is running a serious promo for the current Ryzen CPUs, check the current pricing, but be aware, this is only running until Dec2nd.

At 2K there's not a huge difference in performance between these high end parts, the big gains for Intel are at 1080, which is irrelevant to you.

Swapped out a I7 6700 for a R7 1700 to improve my render times rather than gaming performance and with a GTX1080 the performance changes are variable: In most fairly titles you'll need to run benchmarks to see the change, in older titles the I7 was a little smoother and really old games ran a fair bit faster due to their reliance on single core performance. Ancient games all run at silly speeds regardless :).

If you're keen to upgrade and can't...
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The single core performance is slightly better on the 3770K and that's what really matters for gaming.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/1317vs3916

If your streaming then yes the 1800X would be better due to the extra cores/threads.

What is your CPU usage while gaming? Also if you turn down the settings does that affect FPS? If the FPS doesn't change when you lower the settings then yes the 3770K would be the issue but I would think at that resolution that the majority of the load would be on the GPU.

Increasing your CPU overclock (if possible) would help as well.
 
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cpu is 100% gpu at 70% average so I'm pretty confident its a cpu bottleneck. With my current cooler (h60) its not really possible to get over 4.2 stable I had it at 4.3 but after awhile I started getting crashes.
 
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Fair enough, yea I'd try to get the 8700K as it's going to show the most improvement over your current CPU. If you live near a Microcenter you can get one for $380 in person as long as they have it in stock.
 
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I live in the uk (wish I could get a 8700k for $380). But yeah I'll just have to keep looking around for one I think.
 
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Newegg sell for $415 but not sure if they will ship to UK. Can you order on Amazon UK but thru Amazon US which sell for $400. In stock on Dec 2 according to Amazon US. I know a lot of American people sometimes buy from Amazon UK because it is cheaper and it works.
 
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Another possible option is the non-K 8700, it still has a good boost clock and with the possibility of budget boards coming out Q1 2018 it would be a lot cheaper then going with the 8700K/Z370 motherboard although you do lose that ability to overclock.
 
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Right now AMD is running a serious promo for the current Ryzen CPUs, check the current pricing, but be aware, this is only running until Dec2nd.

At 2K there's not a huge difference in performance between these high end parts, the big gains for Intel are at 1080, which is irrelevant to you.

Swapped out a I7 6700 for a R7 1700 to improve my render times rather than gaming performance and with a GTX1080 the performance changes are variable: In most fairly titles you'll need to run benchmarks to see the change, in older titles the I7 was a little smoother and really old games ran a fair bit faster due to their reliance on single core performance. Ancient games all run at silly speeds regardless :).

If you're keen to upgrade and can't find an i7 8xxx available the R7 1800X is a worthy replacement. If you can wait, or just want to stay with the Blue Team, the i7 8xxx are top class parts, but see my final points.

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If you use multicore/thread aware software, particularly if you stream while playing the extra cores of a Ryzen CPU will be a significant help.

The FE cards do tend to throttle under high, sustained load, it MAY be worth looking into improving the GPU cooling to get more out of that big GTX1080Ti, my own GTX1080 Armour OC Edition dropped its Boost down to <>1700MHZ under the stock air cooler/stock fan profile and a little higher with a custom fan profile set in Afterburner. Under water it holds at nearly 2GHz, and I'm running it totally stock other than the full cover block and custom loop.
No, I'm not suggesting you shell out hundreds of dollars to invest in a full custom loop, just look into an alternative cooler, these cards really like to be kept as cool as reasonably possible.
 
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