Why does my drive boot order keep changing itself?

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Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 / i5-4590 / 8GB G.Skill DDR3 Ripjaws X / GTX 970 / Corsair CX550M / Windows 8.1 64 bit / 1TB Toshiba HDD / 1TB WD Blue HDD / 2TB Seagate Firecuda HDD / 500GB Adata SSD as my boot drive. The Toshiba and WD drives still have windows installed on them, I use the ssd as my boot drive and have for about a year without issues.

The issue I've had since a couple of days ago is that the boot order changes itself in the UEFI overnight while I have steam downloading several games. What i did a couple of days ago when I started downloading was change the power settings to never sleep, and left it overnight with my account locked. In the morning the monitor was on standby, the computer was still on, but with no hdd activity according to the HDD case light, the keyboard led back light was still on so the peripherals were functional, but the computer wouldn't wake from keyboard or mouse input. So I turned off the pc and turned it on, it booted slowly, but after a lot if confusion and panic I realized it booted from my WD drive. I knew something was wrong because the desktop was different, the system reserve partitions were showing in My Computer and the drive letters were different. So I got into the UEFI and saw the boot order was different, I fixed it to have the ssd boot first again and restated. It booted fine this time, but apparently it had finish a windows update first, once that finished it restarted. This time the screen was extremely pixelated, but the screen resolution was correctly at 1080x1920 and DPI was correct. So I restated and all was good again.

Fast forward to the next morning again letting it download overnight. I wake up today to find the monitor black, but I could tell the back light was on and it wasn't in standby mode. The computer again was on with no hdd activity light, keyboard and mouse lighting up, but the computer wouldn't show anything or wake. I turned it off and on, it didn't boot, so I turned it off and went into the UEFI, to find that the Seagate drive (which does not have an OS on it) was now the first boot priority. I changed it back to the Adata SSD as the first boot priority, and it booted fine thus time. This was about 6 hours ago and so far it was fine.

Now, another 4 hours later I check up on the computer again, and the same thing happened. Both my connected monitors have the backlight on with no image, are not in standby, the keyboard LED backlight is on, the computer is on and unresponsive. I turn it off, go into the BIOS and see that the DVD/CD Drive is first in the boot order. Fix it, and it boots fine. Except I find that my F: drive which is the WD Drive is not accessible and it gives me an error about a corrupted recycle bin. After some research, I ran chkdsk in the command prompt and have it in stage 4 looking for bad clusters with about an hour to go. Hoping my motherboard isn't dying or worse, my data being lost.

I'm not sure what could possibly be causing this to happen. Is it a failing drive or is my ssd dying? Could it be the motherboard? Could it be that the computer is getting a windows update and then automatically restarts in the middle of steam downloading, causing some kind of conflict or glitch that is causing my problem? These are just guesses, I'm unsure about why this is happening.
Any help or insight into this is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

TL;DR: Downloading steam games during the day and left overnight to continue downloading. Sleep setting set to never sleep to allow downloading to continue overnight. Find computer on in the morning, but not waking and unresponsive. Find boot order in UEFI is different, fix it to correct boot order and boots fine. Unresponsive again, boot order different again, fixed and boots fine again, but one drive now inaccessible. Happened twice now.
 

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Chkdsk found no problems with the F drive. That program you suggested says the F drive is perfect. System File Checker found corrupted files, but says it could not fix some of them. Still cannot access the F drive, which would be a big loss to me if I lose the data :(
 

Go to "Control Panel > Device Manager > Disk Drives". Do you see the F drive listed? [did you say which it was, Toshiba, WD or Seagate]

Another suggestion, try disconnecting all drives except the boot and F drive. See i you can access it then.
 

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Go to "Control Panel > Device Manager > Disk Drives". Do you see the F drive listed? [did you say which it was, Toshiba, WD or Seagate]

Another suggestion, try disconnecting all drives except the boot and F drive. See i you can access it then.

Yeah, the drives all have been showing in Disk Management. When I would right click the F drive and click properties, it'd say its recycle bin was corrupted, but it couldn't find the proper location on the recycle bin on the f drive, so then I deleted it with command prompt, then after restart that message no longer showed even going to the drive's properties in disk manager. It's a WD drive that's giving me issues now.

I think I'm running out of options, Im hoping it fixed itself today when I get to it, but I think my last options are new sata cables that I'll get today and disconnecting the other drives like you suggested. Idk what to do after that. I'll update as soon as I try what you said.
 

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3 bootable OS's on 3 different drives?
Unless you are purposely looking for a dual or triple boot situation, why?

Have you changed the CMOS battery?
Have you removed those other drive from the boot order?

It's a result of cloning drives for easy hard drive upgrades. I started off with the Toshiba, eventually wanted an SSD, so IIRC, I cloned the Toshiba to the WD and deleted files and programs until it was under a certain size, then cloned that to the SSD so I wouldn't have to reinstall windows and download everything again. Lazy, but worked for over a year to date.

I'll try changing the cmos battery today.

Do you mean removing the drives physically or removing them from the bios as options to boot from? If the latter, I don't see that option in my boot sequence manager.
 

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Drive upgrades and cloning to the new one does NOT dictate that you leave the old drive with a bootable OS on it.
On the contrary...you should actually wipe that old drive completely, once you are satisfied that it works OK with the new drive.
That old OS is just taking up space for no good reason.


And....at the end of the cloning process, the very first step is to disconnect the old drive and allow the system to attempt to boot up from the new drive.
I'm thinking that did not happen.

What happens if you physically disconnect ALL drives except your current SSD boot drive, and power the system up.
Does it boot correctly?


Can you take a screenshot of your BIOS boot order selection, where it shows you cannot remove drive choices?
 

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I should have formatted them after cloning, but I still wanted to retain the other data that wasn't cloned to the other drives at that point.

When I cloned the ssd, I unplugged the other drives and only had the ssd plugged in, which it booted from fine. Ever since, the ADATA has been the only one booted from until recently these issues came out of seemingly nowhere.

I'll try disconnecting the other drives and screenshot the BIOS boot order.
 

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Here's to hoping so. The main issue for me now is how all this seems to have made the F drive un accessible, or it was an unfortunate coincidence. For sake of keeping threads on topic, we can continue with this other issue in the other thread I made that you're in, if you could.
 
You said earlier in this post;

In Device Manager, "When I would right click the F drive and click properties, it'd say its recycle bin was corrupted, but it couldn't find the proper location on the recycle bin on the f drive".

That would suggest the problem that Windows found with F Drive was it's recycle bin was corrupted. Therefore Window couldn't find the proper location of the recycle bin and thus it could not recover any items you had deleted on F Drive. That's all that would be lost, anything you had previously deleted could now no longer be recovered. That should not be a big loss to you. The whole point of having a recycle bin is that everything can be recovered until it is deleted from the recycle bin.
 

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That wouldn't even be considered a loss to me if I can get everything other than its recycle bin. I boot from a different drive, so whatever was in the F drive's recycle bin I would never get to see anyway. I just use F as a main storage drive, but there's a lot of important data that never got backed up.
I only care about getting F to work properly again, and if not, copying that data to a new drive. I just really wonder what caused it.