Moving Os partition to new Ssd help!!

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Hi guys
I've just bought an ssd, I plan on installing the os on it etc. (as per usual)
I currently have a 1tb hdd in my pc with Windows 7 installed on a separate partition, I have the os on the C: and everything else on the D:
Is is possible to clone the C: to the ssd, rename os partition to something else and have all my other files and programs on D: as usual? (of course I'll then move the remainder of the C: to D: at a later date)
Are there any things I need to do to make this work?? Do I need to change the disk type of the ssd to be booted correctly?
Even though the drive names and locations are the same, will it still cause problems with files locating?
Is there anything else I need to worry about?
Any information will be amazing, thanks!! :)
 
Paragon, Easus-todo and Acronis all make tools that make moving your OS from 1 disk to another simple. So long as nothing changes location, there will be no problems. Meaning if everything on the OLD C is moved intact to he NEW C everything will just work.
 

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Better to clean install your windows 7 on new ssd. However cloning software will do the work for you but ssd optimization might be an issue for cloning but there will not be a problem with drive error or something but the experience of SSD will differ between a cloned and a fresh installed windows.
After cloning just look for AHCI is enabled or not but I think it will be on for your HDD drive as well. This setting helps for Native Command Queuing. Google it to find more.
But always better to have a fresh install and during formatting remove your HDD sata cable. After installation connect it again.
 

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Sweet! Thanks!

New to ssds so I didn't want to make a mistake! :)
 

Callumhalo

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Hey again!

I may have screwed up.

So I gave the minitool a go!
I did a os migration and it all seemed to go smoothly, it booted by itself to the old hdd so I then shut down and rebooted on just the ssd.

It then says starting windows, chkdisk no found then blue screens and restarts!

The things I have done to try and fix this :

I've tried to rebuild bcd. (though I'm unsure about this.
I've tried repairing windows boot.
I've tried combinations of drives in and out to seem if that made a difference.
I've tried rebuilding the mbr.

I found out that when creating the clone from unallocated space, it makes the first partition the active one, which was the system reserve on the ssd so I changed the active drive to the os partition and ran system repair to rebuild the boot in the right place, but still no avail!

I have thought that maybe the drive letters might be interfering maybe?

I assume when you boot off the ssd or hdd the boot partition becomes c: and the others are automatically assigned.

Previously I have the 1tb with the os partition c: and the rest on D: when I start up the ssd, the os is c: but the old os partition will be given D :and the rest would be perhaps e:. This is the last thing I can think of that could be causing it.

Unless there is driver confusion..?


Anyway I'm not sure what to do. I can still boot to Windows and edit the ssd if need be..

Do you have any suggestions??
 
1. It's difficult, if not impossible, to provide you with any meaningful solutions or options re your query when you don't provide reasonably detailed information about the volume of data that's involved here.

2. You've apparently multi-partitoned your Win 7 boot drive into two partitons - the C: partition containing the OS (+ apparently other non-OS data it would seem) and a D: partition containing the remainder of your data.

3. What is the partition size of the C: partition and what is the total data contained in that partition?

4. Presumaby the remainder of your data in the D: partition are programs + other data.

5. Now you have a SSD on that you plan to utilize as your new boot drive. The size of the SSD is???

6. And you plan to clone the current contents of the C: partition to the new SSD. Presumably those contents are the System Reserved partition and the C: partition. Is that right? Anything else?

7. So what do you mean when you state you later plan to "move the remainder of the C: (partition) to D: (partition)" at a "later date". What in the world does that even mean?

8. Apparently you used the MiniTool Partition Wizard to for the partition-cloning operation. That program is a very fine partition management program in our estimation but it's not one that's ordinarily used for disk-cloning purposes, although I suppose it has some capability for doing so. We've never used it that way.

You had some reason for doing so? You've previously used it for that purpose?

9. Anyway if you want to pursue this further with us, respond to the above and we'll attempt to provide you with some assistance. If you do respond, please ensure you provide clear & detailed responses to the above.
 

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1. Fair enough, I can do what ever is needed!

2. This is correct, this is currently on the wd black. C: is the os D: is everything else. There are locations of temporary files and eg the desktop location on the D: partition to stop the C:from getting too full. (this could cause some problems booting from the ssd?)

3. The size of the C: is now 108gb where about 70-80 is being used.

4. Presumaby the remainder of your data in the D: partition are programs + other data. This correct, though some relocated is files that build spaces over time.

5. Yes I want the os and programs I frequently use on the ssd. It's a mx300 crucial 525gb so it's plenty big enough.

6. And you plan to clone the current contents of the C: partition to the new SSD. Presumably those contents are the System Reserved partition and the C: partition. Is that right? Anything else?

I just want all the important files that allow the system to boot on the ssd. Or work with the Hdd plugged in too (for all the D: locations)

7. So what do you mean when you state you later plan to "move the remainder of the C: (partition) to D: (partition)" at a "later date". What in the world does that even mean?

Oh I just meant on the 1tb drive to take if any important files of the c: partition on to the D: and then format and add the space to the now storage D: drive. (if I worded that right)

8. Apparently you used the MiniTool Partition Wizard to for the partition-cloning operation. That program is a very fine partition management program in our estimation but it's not one that's ordinarily used for disk-cloning purposes, although I suppose it has some capability for doing so. We've never used it that way.

You had some reason for doing so? You've previously used it for that purpose?

I haven't used it in the past, but I was recommended it and I did some research on it and it seemed like a good and quick way to get the job done.
They have a migrate os option that just clones the os partition, I was hoping it would just work. (then I'd have to optimise the ssd in windows after of course)

9. Thanks for your response! If there's anymore information I can give I'm more than happy to do anything to get this to work!

Thanks for your help
 

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Also, just reinstalling windows on to the ssd is really a last resort. I have the pc set in a specific way and it would take a very long time to reinstall and readjust settings to work correctly. (e.g. In using different audio inputs because the original ones have been damaged)

I appreciate any help!!
 

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Sorry to here this. However you can recover it but it will be very difficult since you have screwed the system reserved partition. Even if you manage to start windows some how it will eventually lead to BSOD/drive crash etc. It will be much better and safe for you to clean install windows in this ssd rather wasting time to make it work. Your system will be a bit faster inf clean installed. Any way there are few programmes to fix active boot partition. You may give it a try. Google it "windows partition repair software"

 


2. I have no idea what you mean when you state "There are locations of temporary files and eg the desktop location on the D: partition to stop the C from getting too full. (this could cause some problems booting from the ssd?)". This makes absolutely no sense to me.

3. All that's important here is that your C boot partition contains no more than 80 GB of data, right. You never mention a System Reserved partition. Is there one? Is it about 100 MB in size or about that size?

I'm going to assume that if you deleted ALL the other data on your 1 TB boot drive, i.e., the D partition and anything else other than the C partition and the SR partition, the system would boot to the OS without any problem. Is this correct? If it's not, then stop right here, capiche?

4. You never responded to my question as to the total amount of data in your D partition. I know that partition contains "programs + other data.". That's obvious. That's not what I asked you. That this data apparently contains "relocated...files that build spaces over time" is a completely meaningless statement. Are you having problems with the English language...perhaps you're not a native speaker of English? So what's the total volume of data residing in your D partition?

Can I make my questions more easier to understand?

5. Good. So you have a fine Crucial SSD to easily contain the contents of your C (boot) partition (+ the SR partition).

6. There should be no problem in meeting your objective. You will be able to clone the C partition to the Crucial SSD and then install programs that you desire on that new C partition. You will NOT be able to simply move/copy programs from your present D partition over to the newly-cloned C partition. The programs will need to be reinstalled onto the C partition. Capiche?

Now you will be able (if you wish) to move/copy other non-program folders/files from the D partition to the newly-cloned C partition, e.g. personal files, audio/visual files, other kinds of non-OS material over if that's what you want.

Or you may wish to create a separate partition on the Crucial if that's your desire. It's up to you.

7. See 6. above. After the cloning operation, you will be able to use the 1 TB HDD as a secondary drive in your system for any purpose you want.

8. It's best to use a program primarily designed to carry out disk-cloning operations. We use the Casper program. It's a commercial program costing $49.99 but there is a trial version available. If you want I'll walk you through the partition cloning operation after you respond to the above. Or, should you prefer, you can try another program such as the Macrium Reflect program, or EaseUS Todo, or AOMEI Backupper. There are quite a few freely-available ones on the net.
 

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2. I have no idea what you mean when you state "There are locations of temporary files and eg the desktop location on the D: partition to stop the C from getting too full. (this could cause some problems booting from the ssd?)". This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Basically, I changed the default destinations of where some system files are to the D: partition to prevent files building up in the C: partition. Previously the C: partition was smaller and I tried to minimise the amount of data that could potentially build up and max out the partition.

But I assume this is irrelevant, I just thought it could interfere or cause problems if the ssd was booting and couldnt find files that are located on the D: partition of the 1tb hdd.

3. All that's important here is that your C boot partition contains no more than 80 GB of data, right. You never mention a System Reserved partition. Is there one? Is it about 100 MB in size or about that size?

I think so? There was never any problems with space or anything. I may have forgot to mention that there was a system reserve partition on both hdds.


I'm going to assume that if you deleted ALL the other data on your 1 TB boot drive, i.e., the D partition and anything else other than the C partition and the SR partition, the system would boot to the OS without any problem. Is this correct? If it's not, then stop right here, capiche?

I assume this is true, but as I mentioned before there is a possibility that there could be things interfering with the boot.

4. You never responded to my question as to the total amount of data in your D partition. I know that partition contains "programs + other data.". That's obvious. That's not what I asked you. That this data apparently contains "relocated...files that build spaces over time" is a completely meaningless statement. Are you having problems with the English language...perhaps you're not a native speaker of English? So what's the total volume of data residing in your D partition?

Can I make my questions more easier to understand?

Basically as I said in number 1(or2). But in different words.

The total size of the partition is 828gb, with 120gb free.

5. Good. So you have a fine Crucial SSD to easily contain the contents of your C (boot) partition (+ the SR partition).

6. There should be no problem in meeting your objective. You will be able to clone the C partition to the Crucial SSD and then install programs that you desire on that new C partition. You will NOT be able to simply move/copy programs from your present D partition over to the newly-cloned C partition. The programs will need to be reinstalled onto the C partition. Capiche?

Yes, I already cloned the C: but ended up getting a discchk not found error and bsod boot loop. I tried many many things as mentioned earlier with no avail.

I am aware that you can't just move programs, but I should be still able to use most of the programs on the D: partition without too much trouble.

Now you will be able (if you wish) to move/copy other non-program folders/files from the D partition to the newly-cloned C partition, e.g. personal files, audio/visual files, other kinds of non-OS material over if that's what you want.

Or you may wish to create a separate partition on the Crucial if that's your desire. It's up to you.

Strange. I did mention that I have already done the cloning but got stuck in a boot loop that I couldn't break. (did I didn't post it? Maybe this is what is causing all the confusion)

7. See 6. above. After the cloning operation, you will be able to use the 1 TB HDD as a secondary drive in your system for any purpose you want.

8. It's best to use a program primarily designed to carry out disk-cloning operations. We use the Casper program. It's a commercial program costing $49.99 but there is a trial version available. If you want I'll walk you through the partition cloning operation after you respond to the above. Or, should you prefer, you can try another program such as the Macrium Reflect program, or EaseUS Todo, or AOMEI Backupper. There are quite a few freely-available ones on the net.

I'm going to try recloning, but if it doesn't work I'll have resort to a clean installation, which will be more than a pain.

Anyway! Thanks for you support.. I just hope I can figure it out..