Help an idiot

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

Hey there guys. Im hoping some of you can help me out. Im an idiot as the title insinuates but ill do my best.

So. I play league of legends on my prebuild asus m11aa. It has a
I5 processor 3340s
Intergrated hd graphics card
4gb ddr3 ram. 1stick 1600
150gb c drive
300w psu

So ive been looking at buying a new pc for sometime but the funds just havent been there.

The other day whilst playing league of legends (lol) i got that fps drop that tipped me over the edge. So i went and got a new graphics card. Asus nvidea 1050ti 4gb strix. More than capable of the job im told.

When i got back i installed the graphics card. Im an idiot so took me a while but i got there in the end. Powered the pc and got a black screen with a message saying insert pcie cables. Or something to that effect. So i opened the pc again and had a look. Found that the graphics card had 6 pin female port on it and a 4 pin male port. Tried to do some research (can be difficult to decifer some stuff) and worked out it essentially just needed more power? So back i went and got my self a “cable”. One end has the desired 6 pin connection the other split into two parts. Each with a 4 pin (what I believe to be called a molex). Although strangely i noticed that one end on had 3 pins inside the head (if that makes sense) and the other only 2 out of the 4.

Being the idiot i am i thought try with the 2 first in case 3 blows something up, if that doesnt work try with 3. So i did. And two didnt work (got same error measage) and 3 did. So now i have my prebuilt pc with a new graphics card in it. Monitor IS connected to the graphics card hdmi not the intergrated. Boot up the pc first thing i do is got to nvidea site and install the drivers. All seems fine. Boot up lol excited to see the preformance go in to a game to see the fps (league has an in built setting allowing you to cap fps). My aim was to run high setting awith a solid 60fps. Thats what i wanted from the new graphics card. I un cap the fps on the lowest settings and get 333 fps. Its fluctuating quite a lot considering nothing was happening in game. Then change the quality to highest and cap it to 60 fps. I only get 59 fps. Not 60? So i cap it to 80 fps max i get is 77. 120 fps cap get 117. 144 fps get 137. Why? That makes no sense, right? Still get big fps drops of like 44 on uncapped too which sits at 250 on highest quality settings. Its worth mentioning on the intergrated graphics card when capped to 60fps i can get a solid 60fps not 59 whilst idle in game.

Checked the task manager preformance and noticed im using almost all my ram. In some cases as high as 93% which im assuming is high. Cpu seems ok around 18-40% i believe. Checked the graphics card temperature and its fine. Like 38c.

Ive ordered ram and it should be here today. Hopefully that resolves the issue but I dont know.

My questions are. Have i installed it correctly? Do both molex need to be plugged in? Isit the correct cable? Is ram the issue? Does that 4 pin on graphics card need to be connected.

I Massively appreciate anyone thats taken the time to read through this mess above and thank anyone that can responds. Thank you guys

Jamie.

maxalge · Nov 27, 2017

knightdevil11 :

Hey there guys. Im hoping some of you can help me out. Im an idiot as the title insinuates but ill do my best.

So. I play league of legends on my prebuild asus m11aa. It has a
I5 processor 3340s
Intergrated hd graphics card
4gb ddr3 ram. 1stick 1600
150gb c drive
300w psu

So ive been looking at buying a new pc for sometime but the funds just havent been there.

The other day whilst playing league of legends (lol) i got that fps drop that tipped me over the edge. So i went and got a new graphics card. Asus nvidea 1050ti 4gb strix. More than capable of the job im told.

When i got back i installed the graphics card. Im an idiot so took me a while but i got there in the end. Powered the pc and got a black screen with a message saying insert pcie cables. Or something to that effect. So i opened the pc again and had a look. Found that the graphics card had 6 pin female port on it and a 4 pin male port. Tried to do some research (can be difficult to decifer some stuff) and worked out it essentially just needed more power? So back i went and got my self a “cable”. One end has the desired 6 pin connection the other split into two parts. Each with a 4 pin (what I believe to be called a molex). Although strangely i noticed that one end on had 3 pins inside the head (if that makes sense) and the other only 2 out of the 4.

Being the idiot i am i thought try with the 2 first in case 3 blows something up, if that doesnt work try with 3. So i did. And two didnt work (got same error measage) and 3 did. So now i have my prebuilt pc with a new graphics card in it. Monitor IS connected to the graphics card hdmi not the intergrated. Boot up the pc first thing i do is got to nvidea site and install the drivers. All seems fine. Boot up lol excited to see the preformance go in to a game to see the fps (league has an in built setting allowing you to cap fps). My aim was to run high setting awith a solid 60fps. Thats what i wanted from the new graphics card. I un cap the fps on the lowest settings and get 333 fps. Its fluctuating quite a lot considering nothing was happening in game. Then change the quality to highest and cap it to 60 fps. I only get 59 fps. Not 60? So i cap it to 80 fps max i get is 77. 120 fps cap get 117. 144 fps get 137. Why? That makes no sense, right? Still get big fps drops of like 44 on uncapped too which sits at 250 on highest quality settings. Its worth mentioning on the intergrated graphics card when capped to 60fps i can get a solid 60fps not 59 whilst idle in game.

Checked the task manager preformance and noticed im using almost all my ram. In some cases as high as 93% which im assuming is high. Cpu seems ok around 18-40% i believe. Checked the graphics card temperature and its fine. Like 38c.

Ive ordered ram and it should be here today. Hopefully that resolves the issue but I dont know.

My questions are. Have i installed it correctly? Do both molex need to be plugged in? Isit the correct cable? Is ram the issue? Does that 4 pin on graphics card need to be connected.

I Massively appreciate anyone thats taken the time to read through this mess above and thank anyone that can responds. Thank you guys

Jamie.

you need to get a power supply with the proper pcie 6-pin cable for that 1050 ti

or return it and get a version that does not require the cable ( some dont )

using adapters is not recommended on low tier power supplies

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

maxalge :

knightdevil11 :

Hey there guys. Im hoping some of you can help me out. Im an idiot as the title insinuates but ill do my best.

So. I play league of legends on my prebuild asus m11aa. It has a
I5 processor 3340s
Intergrated hd graphics card
4gb ddr3 ram. 1stick 1600
150gb c drive
300w psu

So ive been looking at buying a new pc for sometime but the funds just havent been there.

The other day whilst playing league of legends (lol) i got that fps drop that tipped me over the edge. So i went and got a new graphics card. Asus nvidea 1050ti 4gb strix. More than capable of the job im told.

When i got back i installed the graphics card. Im an idiot so took me a while but i got there in the end. Powered the pc and got a black screen with a message saying insert pcie cables. Or something to that effect. So i opened the pc again and had a look. Found that the graphics card had 6 pin female port on it and a 4 pin male port. Tried to do some research (can be difficult to decifer some stuff) and worked out it essentially just needed more power? So back i went and got my self a “cable”. One end has the desired 6 pin connection the other split into two parts. Each with a 4 pin (what I believe to be called a molex). Although strangely i noticed that one end on had 3 pins inside the head (if that makes sense) and the other only 2 out of the 4.

Being the idiot i am i thought try with the 2 first in case 3 blows something up, if that doesnt work try with 3. So i did. And two didnt work (got same error measage) and 3 did. So now i have my prebuilt pc with a new graphics card in it. Monitor IS connected to the graphics card hdmi not the intergrated. Boot up the pc first thing i do is got to nvidea site and install the drivers. All seems fine. Boot up lol excited to see the preformance go in to a game to see the fps (league has an in built setting allowing you to cap fps). My aim was to run high setting awith a solid 60fps. Thats what i wanted from the new graphics card. I un cap the fps on the lowest settings and get 333 fps. Its fluctuating quite a lot considering nothing was happening in game. Then change the quality to highest and cap it to 60 fps. I only get 59 fps. Not 60? So i cap it to 80 fps max i get is 77. 120 fps cap get 117. 144 fps get 137. Why? That makes no sense, right? Still get big fps drops of like 44 on uncapped too which sits at 250 on highest quality settings. Its worth mentioning on the intergrated graphics card when capped to 60fps i can get a solid 60fps not 59 whilst idle in game.

Checked the task manager preformance and noticed im using almost all my ram. In some cases as high as 93% which im assuming is high. Cpu seems ok around 18-40% i believe. Checked the graphics card temperature and its fine. Like 38c.

Ive ordered ram and it should be here today. Hopefully that resolves the issue but I dont know.

My questions are. Have i installed it correctly? Do both molex need to be plugged in? Isit the correct cable? Is ram the issue? Does that 4 pin on graphics card need to be connected.

I Massively appreciate anyone thats taken the time to read through this mess above and thank anyone that can responds. Thank you guys

Jamie.

you need to get a power supply with the proper pcie 6-pin cable for that 1050 ti

or return it and get a version that does not require the cable ( some dont )

using adapters is not recommended on low tier power supplies

Thank you so much for the response its greatly appreciated. So a new power supply may be in order. Im assuming fitting one is a simple case of replacing the cables in to the new one. Im also assuming i need to consider the phyiscal size of the power supply for my case? Can you give me any pointers on where to start looking for a new psu?

Again, thank you.

maxalge · Nov 27, 2017

knightdevil11 :

depends on the size of the case

do you have the tower?

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

maxalge :

Yes, thats the tower. Does the wattage have to be the same or can it be higher, i could see my self upgrading further so might be worth just getting a better one now? Ive seen some in a store near me.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-cx650-atx-psu-650-w-10162443-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-cx550-atx-psu-550-w-10162442-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-cx450-atx-psu-450-w-10162441-pdt.html

maxalge · Nov 27, 2017

knightdevil11 :

then any standard sized power supply will work

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139146&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

more than enough for your setup

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

maxalge :

awesome, looks like were looking at the same one. I edited my previous post. So should i just get the 650w to save me having to buy another in the near future?

thanks again

madmatt30 · Nov 27, 2017

Those asus pc's have a 350w fsp unit fitted.

Not incredible but more than enough for a 1050ti.

Your fps??

Enable vsync to adaptive mode in nvidia settings.

Enable vsync in the game menu.

Youll get 60fps.

maxalge · Nov 27, 2017

knightdevil11 :

a 550w unit would be more then plenty

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139202&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

unless you plan on completely rebuilding your pc with a gtx 1080 ti soon?

maxalge · Nov 27, 2017

madmatt30 :

he has a 1050 ti that requires a 6-pin and doesnt seem to want to return it

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

madmatt30 :

The tag on the psu says 300w with 360 peak. I tried enabling v-sync and yes i did get 60fps, however, i know its not working properly when v-sync is off and would much prefer to get it fixed. Thank you so much for the response.

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

maxalge :

As im looking at getting a new pc anyway, these components would be nice to have in the new one. its seems counter productive to return and get a lower spec graphics card. I would much prefer to continue upgrading the components, such as the psu as i go. Thats why I dont want to return it.

madmatt30 · Nov 27, 2017

Your gpu is working fine , an artificial cap never gives exactly what you set it at.

Adaptive vsync / or fast sync is intended for exactly what youre asking .

You should honestly use either of those options.

They're a better choice than leaving vsync disabled & capping with afterburner or rivatuner.

Its working as it should do.& yes a better psu would always be preferable, Im just saying that in this case your psu has nothing to do with this at all.

That strix still will not pull more than 75w at stock settings , all the 6 pin is doing is drawing power from an external source rather than from the slot.

The actual power required is the same .

RobCrezz · Nov 27, 2017

Try using vsync instead of the FPS Cap, or just do like I do and run it un capped.

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

madmatt30 :

I appreciate what you're saying about the cap, but the fps drops are still pretty drastic, less so with v sync, but there nonetheless. Everyone i've spoke to about this gpu says its more than capable of running league fine, and 333fps uncapped supports that.

Thanks again for your time.

knightdevil11 · Nov 27, 2017

Update: I now cant hold any more than 45 fps. v-sync or no v-sync. capped or uncapped. high settings or low settings.

maxalge · Nov 27, 2017

knightdevil11 :

make sure your cpu is not overheating, monitor temps

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