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I am trying to get a new processor for my computer by the end of the holiday season and I was wondering if there was a huge gaming experience difference between AMD and Intel. AMD is less expensive and so I would just like to know if AMD is just not future proof, not as good as Intel, or if they are the same. Thank you to anyone who responds to this!

Im thinking about getting a Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor or a Ryzen 3 1300x to help compare for those giving a solution!
 
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If your PC is essentially an xbox with a keyboard, always get Intel. If you mostly use it for other things Ryzen gives you more there.

Bang for the buck = AMD
Multi-tasking = AMD
Gaming = Intel
None of these are far apart, just who's in front...
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maybe AMD is not on the same level as Intel , but it's budget you can game for longer with less money spent . same for their graphics cards , you spend less and you can spend it elsewhere on something else . the key word here is budget

also , bear in mind intel is highly experimental , they renew their 115x cpu's every year so that they get feedback for their more expensive AMD like cpu's

if you want to seriously game buy something without an integrated graphics
 
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If you need the money, get the R3.
If you have the money, get an i5/R5.

Generally, the R3s are great budget processors, R5s are great budget multi threaded processors that are capable of gaming, and the i5 would likely give flat better gaming performance.

If you plan on doing things other than gaming, an R5 is a great midrange option.
 
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So would the ryzen 3 be able to run gaming at high quality gaming?
 
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If your PC is essentially an xbox with a keyboard, always get Intel. If you mostly use it for other things Ryzen gives you more there.

Bang for the buck = AMD
Multi-tasking = AMD
Gaming = Intel
None of these are far apart, just who's in front without consideration for how much they are winning by.

If you can afford it, I would suggest the i5-8400, which is a lot faster (especially for gaming) than the i5-7500.

http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-i5-8400-review-the-best-new-gaming-cpu-in-years/

Here is an interesting bit of info. It is hard to find someone who picked either side and regret it. Tells you that you're likely going to like it no matter which IT you pick.
 
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Depends on the games and your budget.
If you take the money saved compared to an i5 and get a better GPU, you will probably have a better time.
Now, if you can afford both a modern i5, and a decent GPU, the gaming performance is going to be better.
 
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AMD may be launching Ryzen+ (12nm refresh) early next year and if the die shrink with some architecture tweaks produces the expected ~15% performance improvements mainly from faster clocks and improved fabric/memory performance, that will put AMD well ahead of Intel in most cases at least until Cannon Lake launches.
 
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This is dreaming. It assumes AMD can do everything they wish. They didn't get this done with the current version of Ryzen. It assumes Intel won't counter, which seems even more unlikely. Ryzen+/Ryzen 2 is gonna happen. It is gonna be better. It is very unlikely to change the status quo.
 
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So my friend is going to be giving me his MSI Radeon R9 390 because he upgrade to a 1080 and offered to give it to me so I accepted the offer as anyone would. So would a Ryzen r3 run games very well with amazing graphics and high fps with this combo? Or would you guys still recommend getting the i5?
 
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AMD wanted to make Ryzen 40% better than their previous chips and it ended up being ~50% faster so AMD EXCEEDED its goal there. The 15% jump for Ryzen+ is merely assuming GloFo's 12nm does deliver the 15% better performance GloFo claimed it achieved with its shrink from 16nm. Unless AMD screws up the shrink, it should be a slam-dunk.
 
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http://www.dsogaming.com/news/amd-promises-to-improve-ipc-performance-in-future-cpus-talks-about-optimization-in-pc-games/

According to AMD's desktop CPU marketing manager, Don Woligroski
“I’ve said this before and I think it holds true. Zen, Ryzen, was the worst case scenario."
Click to expand...

Followed by a promise to fix it.
 
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for work related tasks maybe

since OP is asking about gaming, then yeah it was disappointing to say the least

especially when you have something like a i5 3570k @ 4ghz pretty much beating them and at worse tying with the higher end versions
 
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if you want to buy new look into a i5 8400 setup, super well priced for the performance


simply catch a proper mobo on sale and you are golden


 
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What he was referring to as Ryzen being a "worst case" is the combination of all-new architecture on an all-new socket and all-new chipset which meant little to no software optimizations for any of it at launch and a fair amount of BIOS/driver maturation to do. The performance itself was beyond AMD's own expectations despite all of those "worst case" factors.

If you took his "worst case" as meaning that future IPC improvements will leapfrog the 40-50% AMD achieved with Ryzen, you'll be sorely disappointed when Ryzen 2/3 end up delivering only incremental (sub-10%) IPC improvements much like Intel's CPUs do. AMD's massive leap with Ryzen was only possible because it was that far behind Intel. Now AMD is fighting the same uphill battle for incremental IPC gains.
 
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