GTX 1080 ideal choice(s), and real vs stated power requirements?

King_V

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Ok, so, let's see, some details:

When - don't know, maybe next 2 months
Usage- gaming, but I'm generally behind the curve by a bit, so not the latest and greatest AAA titles.
Current GPU - Gigabyte Windforce OC R9 285 (GV-R9285WF2OC-2GD) - 190W TDP rating
Current PSU - standard Dell 460 W (385 available on 12V rail)
Other PC Specs - Standard Dell XPS 8700 mid-tower, i5 4460, 16GB RAM (4 x 4GB, dual channel), optical drive(has literally been used exactly twice in 3 years), 1TB HDD, soon to add 500GB SSD
Location - US, New Jersey. Typically order from NewEgg or Amazon, but there've been exceptions.
Overclocking - not planning on it
Monitor resolution - 3820 x 1600 (around 75% of the pixels of a full 4K monitor)

Alright, probably more information than needed. However, I have a few questions.

1) The GTX 1080 is generally rated at 180W TDP, though, I think some board partners list some of their models a little higher (some EVGA models, for example, at 215W). My current GPU is 190W. However, I know my current GPU did NOT take the move from 1920x1080 to 3820x1600 well at all, and that's not surprising. Still, while it tends to run flat out, and it struggles, nothing bad has ever happened.

What I mean is, I know that GPUs sometimes run past their top power rating, though I don't know how consistently or how much, or if this happens more often with newer cards.

So - let's say I'm using another board that is listed at 180 or even 215W. Have I been playing a dangerous game with my existing R9 285 and its maximum power draw, given that GPUs can sometimes exceed the stated number? Would I be fine continuing with the same PSU with a normal GTX 1080, or should I give myself a little more headroom in the PSU department? How about when increasing up to one of the 215W models, or am I too close to the limit to go that much higher?

My guesstimate is that, if I stick with a 180W model, I can probably stick with my existing power supply. If I go with a 215W GPU, or even consider, say, a 1080Ti that goes, I think 250W(?), am I correct in assuming that a good quality 550W PSU would suffice?

(yeah, I realize that question 1 was one question in like 5 parts or so)


2) Now, maybe the top 2 or 3 choices in terms of which particular GTX 1080 to go for. I'm willing to give up a little bit of performance in favor of quieter operation. No coil whine. Better cooling with quieter fans. Air cooling only, not interested in liquid cooling. I have no need to necessarily stick with a 2-slot solution. If it goes past 2-slots, I am fine. What particular models do you suggest in this regard?


Thanks in advance.
 

MCMunroe

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I have a similar system and just ran before and after PSU upgrade power testing at the wall outlet with a Killawatt.

Java:
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Gaming Desktop 
i7-6700k @ 4.4 GHz, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1080, 4 HDDs, 1 SSD
		Old		        New
		Thermalteke	Corsair
		Smart750W	HX750 Platinum
		Watts
Off:		             1		  2
Idle:		          56		61
Gaming:		102		101
Encoding:	177		150
Enc + Game:	224		192

The gaming test was running the Tomb Raider benchmark at 4K Ultra. Video encoding was 4K video and 100% CPU usage. I honestly think, I could of got a 500W PSU and been more balanced. The GTX 1080, has a mild power bump set to 120%.

Obviously, in my example the GPU isn't using 180W, or even close. Maybe that was a bad test.
 

King_V

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NOTE: my son's slightly later XPS (Dell XPS 8910) has the same 460W power supply (385W on the 12V rail), but a new case, and Dell's website explicitly states that it can handle up to a 225W graphics card... though I'm not sure if I entirely trust that boast.

I guess the motherboard uses less power than I'd been using as a general estimate! This would imply that the whole rest of the system uses only 160W.
 
Id want more than that stock 460w dell psu honestly with a 1080.

I have no doubt at all you'll be touching 350w a lot of the time gaming especially at the resolution you're running.

I cant see McMunroes killawatt tests being even close to realistic loadouts really.

I'd reckon if you can afford a 1080 you should be able to afford $50-60 for a new psu too.

Something cheapish but decent like the corsair cx550m (currently $50 on amazon) would give you a lot more headroom than you have now.

 

King_V

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A good point, particularly as it seems that, at least from the bits and pieces I'm reading here and there, any of the overclocked 1080s are definitely drawing more power than the 180W "stock" rating.

Plus, I might POSSIBLY consider a 1080Ti (but, ye gods, the cost! A 1080's price is already making me squirm!), or one of the higher factory-overclocked options available.


Though, beyond the power, I also want to consider which brands have quiet coils, quiet yet effective air-cooling, etc.
 

MCMunroe

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How can a "From the wall socket" Test be super low and wrong?
I do have VSync on at 60FPS as I use a 70" 4K TV and why waste FPS and redline the GPU for no reason. Min framerates in that test where 60FPS.

Just asking as my flat out test of Game & 100% CPU load seems legit. Also what I do most days.