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vapour

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+1 to above two,
ram too slow, ryzen loves faster rams, 3000+ is preferred.
That expensive AIO for Ryzen?! Overkill, I will get Ryzen 1600 and can oc with stock cooler pretty well.
I will put the extra money on gtx 1080 and an OS. Do get a 1080p/1440p 144Hz Gsync monitor.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($193.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB DUKE OC Video Card ($514.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.90 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1415.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-30 00:35 EST-0500
 
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RAM isn't "too slow"... And the extra $50 is definitely not worth it for faster out-of-the-box ram. That 2400MHz ram could easily be overclocked at least 2666MHz with looser voltage and timings, which is where performance up scaling tends to drop off.
 
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Not true for Ryzen: https://www.eteknix.com/memory-speed-large-impact-ryzen-performance/
and you can not guarantee 2666 with 2400 ram for Ryzen either.
 
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That's one source, which doesn't show 1% lows or 0.1% lows, and only one game. Not so reliable. Try this.
"In these results, the gap between DDR4-2133 and DDR4-2666 appears to be the largest most often, normally about equal to or larger than the gap between DDR4-2666 and DDR4-3200."

No guarantees, though highly likely. For example, though these don't use Ryzen ( I don't think ), 'Woomack' has overclocked multiple 2400MHz kits and reported back. Out of the four looked at, 3 of them could overclock to 2800MHz while one to 3000MHz with voltages at or below 1.35V.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/772258-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-LT-2x16GB-DDR4-2400-BLS2K16G4D240FSE
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/757793-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-LT-16GB-%28-4x4GB-%29-DDR4-2400-CL16-1-20V-BLS4G4D240FSB
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/757257-Kingston-HyperX-FURY-32GB-DDR4-2400-CL15-HX424C15FBK4-32
http://www.overclockers.com/mushkin-blackline-16gb-ddr4-2400-cl15-memory-kit-review/
 
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That was tested on Z170 - totally irrelevant to a discussion on a Ryzen rig. Ryzen rigs handle RAM much differently than Intel platforms do. Go back in this thread and read the articles that were posted earlier.
 
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The problem with this statement is that you are assuming most users are inclined to overclock ANYTHING, which they are not. The majority of people want a product that is guaranteed to run at it's advertised speed out of the box based on it's XMP or AMP profile. Expecting the 90% out there with little to no experience with any kind of overclocking to feel comfortable trying to coax a full speed tier out of a slower module is unrealistic. They won't. So for them, the extra 50 dollars, IF in fact there is a fifty dollar difference between otherwise identical modules which seems historically improbable to me, is potentially worth it to those users IF the speed gain offers anything significant.

Typically, that has not historically been the case. Increasing RAM speed by a single speed tier in the past has not been shown to offer any tangible performance benefits for gaming OR in most real world applications. You'd see it show up on synthetic benches, but that's where it's usefulness generally ended. Now however, seems as though that is SOMEWHAT changing, but I personally would not be inclined to pay anything more than a modest premium for a higher clocked module, especially beyond 3200mhz which is where the latency really starts catching up.
 
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Well if OP doesn't feel inclined to overclock, may as well go for a Ryzen 1600x, or Intel Kabylake. If they're willing to overclock the CPU, what's stopping the, from overclocking the ram. It follows the same principles, as they're no guarentees in speeds. Also, never did I say it's necessary to overclock the ram, it's just a option to for increased performance if needed, while saving $50.

If you want to spend $50 for possibly a 10% framerate uplift in the games and times where the CPU is the limiting factor, go for the higher clocked ram. Otherwise, the lower clocked ram, overclocked if needed will do fine.

Also, op, what refresh rate do you intend to game at? If it's 75hz or below, ram speeds won't even matter as a Ryzen 1600 can pretty much perform up to that refresh rate no matter the ram.
 
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I wasn't knocking you, not really, however, now that you bring it up, I really don't see any mention of the OP wanting to overclock the CPU either. MOST users don't want to overclock their CPUs if what we see from our visitor base here is any indication, so while it' might follow the same principles, again, most users don't want to overclock if it means they've got to leave their comfort zone of unbox, install, play. They just aren't like you and I.

And that's ok. Not everybody wants to or cares about overclocking so if the solution doesn't work out of the box, it's lost on the vast majority.
 
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Please start your own thread. We tend to frown on people posting questions about their own builds in other people's threads. Most see it as highjacking. So my advice would be start your own thread because you're far more likely to get help that way anyhow, plus, it's a violation of our guidelines. Thanks.
 
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