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I've only had a couple programs have problems with their GUI being a bit crumpled at 4K res. I know of no fix for it. I can still barely use them because just enough of the tabs that I use show.

Yeah and the scaling isn't nearly as good as some have claimed, kinda grainy. My Panasonic TC-L32U3 Alpha IPS is actually better than I gave it credit for. Great at scaling to lower res, great at motion handling (with no motion processing), and lower input lag.

I'm kinda tempted to send this one back and try the X800E 43", which is an IPS. The other option is to just send it back and keep using my Panasonic until it dies. I've been getting this strange pattern flickering briefly on it when watching broadcast TV though, and I worry if I keep it...
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Frag Maniac

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I just bought the X900E and at the 3840x2160 res you're running, you can probably only output at 60Hz like mine. You need to drop to 1080p to output at 120Hz.

When I installed the latest drivers for my 1080 Ti, by default the Output color format was set to YCbCr422 at 10 bit color depth (Nvidia Control Panel bottom of Change Resolution page), and HDR in the Windows Display settings was turned on.

Set it instead to YCbCR444, but first change color depth to 8 bit. Like mine, it probably isn't capable of 444 at 10 bit, and could corrupt the driver if you attempt it. At 444 8 bit the color quality, text, clarity, and contrast look way better. It also looks very good in games.

I really don't know why these TVs can't look better at anything other than 444. My cheap $330 Panasonic IPS panel TV never had a problem displaying all of the available color formats in AMD's panel on my 7970. It could be a problem on Nvidia's end as far as the way the TV is recognized. Nvidia seem to be mostly targeting monitors, not TVs.

Another strange thing is my TV says it will not work for HDR unless on HDMI port 2 or 3 (one of which is ARC for TV, which has no HDR content), and only when color format is set to 420, which is the lowest quality.

I really don't know if games that have HDR will run in the default 422 color format Nvidia's driver chooses, especially since my TV says it only supports HDR in 420. There's been a lot of advertising hype around HDR, but it seems to me they haven't got all the compatibility bugs worked out yet. Then again there's very little content for it yet, so that may take some time.

I still have until 1/25 with the option to return this TV for any reason if I wish, but there really aren't any better choices I see under 50" size at this price range. Plus it's unlikely OLED will be made in 50" or less any time soon. My other option was a monitor and TV Tuner card, but that kind of setup is much more hit and miss, and not as good on image quality.
 
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hey thanks for the reply i agree with HDR being a gimmick of sorts also it looks much nicer now but i cant seem to get the scaling of the apps and stuff rights its either super tiny or out of frame can you help with that
also i am assuming i crank it up to 4k if i had actual games movies that run in 4k
and i found this it might be helpfull

''The TV supports all the common input signals. 1080p @ 120 Hz was displayed properly without the artifacts seen in the X930D and without the jagged scaling of the X900E. To play 4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 color, HDMI port 2 or 3 must be used and 'HDMI Enhanced Format' must be enabled. Both the 'game' and 'graphics' picture modes properly display 4:4:4 color.

and i cant find change the output to 120hz atleast i don't know how
 
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I've only had a couple programs have problems with their GUI being a bit crumpled at 4K res. I know of no fix for it. I can still barely use them because just enough of the tabs that I use show.

Yeah and the scaling isn't nearly as good as some have claimed, kinda grainy. My Panasonic TC-L32U3 Alpha IPS is actually better than I gave it credit for. Great at scaling to lower res, great at motion handling (with no motion processing), and lower input lag.

I'm kinda tempted to send this one back and try the X800E 43", which is an IPS. The other option is to just send it back and keep using my Panasonic until it dies. I've been getting this strange pattern flickering briefly on it when watching broadcast TV though, and I worry if I keep it too long it will go out at a bad time when the better TVs are scarce or high priced.

The IPS TVs always have a bit of black crush, but these VA panel TVs have the same with whites, and it can be worse, because once you dial it out, you end up with black crush anyway. On my Panasonic I could tune it so neither were excessive.

This TV has 5.1 HD Audio pass through though, so I get better multi channel sound with it. It also looks better than the Panny when the source content is good. Looks pretty good with just Amazon streams though too, again, as long as the source content is good.
 
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can you tell me how to run 1080p at 120hz plz i have no idea how

 
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The TV itself should automatically output at 120Hz when watching 1080p broadcasts. When in Windows, just right click on the open desktop, click Display Settings, then choose 1920x1080, and Save when prompted. Now in the same Display Settings page, click Display adapter properties at the bottom of the page, then the Monitor tab on the small window that pops up. Under Monitor Settings adjust the Screen refresh rate to 120Hz, but MAKE SURE you are in 1920x1080 resolution first.
 
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