Help me decide which GPU (budget) RX 580 vs GTX 1060 6GB vs 980 TI

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I'm building my new Ryzen 1600X system in a few days, my wallet is a bit light right now, so i will be doing the GPU upgrade later.

So i've reached a bit of a dilemma, i'm a long time system builder i've even sold custom built systems in the past and i'm usually very well versed in the tech.

I've always been a supporter or Nvidia/SLI always having dual GPUs in my builds for at least the last 10 years, But i've read something recently which calls that into question.

From what i've read a lot of game developers are not optimizing for SLI/CF anymore
(i've seen this in reality on a friends dual R9 290 system, should be 100fps+ but it's lucky to get 60-70FPS)
So this calls into question is SLI/CF going to be a viable solution anymore.
Now everybody always said you could only expect 20-30% gains from SLI, in my experience it was always a lot higher than that closer to 45% give or take.

Some posts/reviews have predicted/observed as little as a 10% gain from current GPUs with new games in SLI, i've always liked the SLI option as a way to buy one reasonably priced GPU now and add another later to keep up with times, it's always served me pretty well, but if the above is true it may no longer be an option.

It also creates a problem for budget minded people, how do you get 60-70FPS+ minimum without spending $600-$700 on a GTX 1080 TI


Which brings me closer to my current predicament, i have a budget i can't go dropping $500 on a GPU as much as i would like to.

I've considered several options as follows.

RX 580
Now, i've ALWAYS had Nvidia cards in my builds, i've always found them to be just better, But it looks like the gap is closing up a lot the RX 580 looks like the best performance per dollar matching the 1060 6GB in a lot of cases and just under it in others.

I'm a bit worried about its 1% lows i've very frame sensitive and i can see those micro stutters that some people can't see

On paper the RX 580 is the superior card, except in core clock, though that can't really be a 1:1 comparisons

However, it is just slightly lagging behind the GTX 1060 6GB in some areas, and sometimes that might mean the difference between 60+FPS or not

the 8GB VRAM may or may not be beneficial for the future

GTX 1060 6GB
This one looks like the best performance, but i'm not sure about it No SLI support and SLI may be pointless

Being a lower binned card it may have far less overclocking potential which is problematic for the future if SLI isn't a viable option

6GB VRAM is less than 8GB from the RX 580 again may or may not be critical

980 SLI
Again If SLI is useless for the future then this wouldn't be useful as 1060 6GB is roughly = to single 980 at least based on the benchmarks i've seen.

980 TI
This is somewhat on the fringe, roughly 1070 performance for less money in used market, but buying a last gen GPU sounds like a downgrade and a all around bad idea for a new build. not to mention could the card be worn out due to bad O/C etc




So here's the basis of my dilemma, hopefully i covered all the important points.

I should point out i have no intention of gaming higher than 1080p.

The one kink is at some point i want to get a Oculus rift (won't be for a while) and i need something that can handle it, i'm not entirely sure any of these cards can maintain 90fps
 
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980ti(1070 ish area)<580 8gb < 1060 6gb

I would go for the 980 ti and take the risk becuase you can resell for the same price

And 980 sli is about a 1080, but only do it if you are playing gmaes which support sli, and have a good caase for airflow

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couple things. ya we dont really recommend sli. the cons of heat, psu reliability and few games supporting it. whoever said you always get 20% gains is lying. second, for some reason (in canada at least) the rx580 is on sale for good prices. id recommend watching some youtube videos with a 580 vs 1060 game.
 
I think there is a simpler way to make these kinds of decisions but for some reason people always ignore it. Make a list of the games you play. Now ask yourself these questions:
Do any of these games benefit from SLI/Crossfire?
Do any of these games run better on AMD or on Nvidia cards?
Do any of these games use over 6gb of vram at the resolution and settings you use?

Instead of focusing on the cards, focus on the games. Right now for instance PUBG runs better on Nvidia cards. So if that's a game you play a lot then that tilts things to a 1060. If you don't already know that a certain game you play makes good use of SLI, then SLI shouldn't even be a consideration for you.
 
The RX 580 and GTX 1060 are similar in terms of performance, though the 580 seems to pull ahead slightly in some newer games. Either one would perform about the same though, and the 6GB vs 8GB of VRAM probably won't be a concern at 1080p any time soon. However, the 1060 is more energy efficient. While the 1060 draws under 130 watts while gaming, the 580 can draw around 200 watts, which in turn is likely to mean more heat and noise.


These cards would be pretty good for 1080p gaming, although some newer games might need something a bit more powerful if you want to maintain 60+ fps at max graphics settings. The 1070 would be a good choice for newer and upcoming games, but it's unfortunately priced quite a bit higher, in part due to the high demand for cards for cryptocurrency mining some months back. The prices haven't had a chance to finish settling from that, and there's still a rather large price gap between the 1060 and 1070. And even the 1060s and 580s are still priced slightly higher than they were earlier this year. It would be nice if a card were introduced between the 1060 and 1070 (much like nvidia recently did with the 1070 Ti above it) but nothing like that has been announced yet.

And for VR, it's difficult to say. It's possible that there will be more demanding VR games released in 2018, and it's also likely that higher-resolution headsets that require more graphics hardware performance will announced by companies like Oculus and HTC before long.
 

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Thanks for the reply, yeah I've come to much the same conclusion, i'm not extremely worried about power draw Antec 1000W Gold PSU 90A rail if i recall so i wont have any problem feeding it power And heat well, Down the road i'm going full custom water loop with hard tubes and the case has 8 fans with space for 11

If we narrow things down to the RX 580 and GTX 1060 6GB (i'm curious if all 6GB parts have the 9Gbps RAM not clear)

Its a tough call, my instinct is get the RX 580 for better future proofing and those fabled better compatibility with ryzen rumors but i doubt it will ever be true, and then there's past experience with AMD vs. Nvidia performance tells me it could be a bad idea.

If Vega was better priced (and you could get them) it might be a contender but i dont see that changing any time soon

However, that said, i haven't messed with AMD stuff since the R9 series and i wasn't too impressed with it

I think the RX 580 theoretically will have more life than the 1060 6GB

As you say the 1070 would be an ideal middle of the road but the price of a 1070 right now is just a bit too much if they come down closer to 1060 6GB pricing then with no question i'd probably go with that.
 

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gtx 980 ti with a i5 8400 build (just make sure the 980 ti is from asus or msi, as they have warranty based on date of manufacture and it is tied to the card not the owner)



for gaming ryzen is obsolete, especially if you want to do VR
 

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980ti(1070 ish area)<580 8gb < 1060 6gb

I would go for the 980 ti and take the risk becuase you can resell for the same price

And 980 sli is about a 1080, but only do it if you are playing gmaes which support sli, and have a good caase for airflow
 
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