Building a Budget All round PC

sales.hosini

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Hi all,

First off, I'm not sure which section of forum should this goes into, so if it is at a wrong section please move it admin. Thanks!

More detailed on what i'm looking for recommendation. I'm looking to build a desktop that offers some portability for the convenience of LAN gaming etc. After searching around I found out that both MicroAtx and Mini-Itx seems to be possible options and I cannot really decide what should I build.

Here is the current thought on what I want to build with budget around [strike]$1200[/strike] Around $900, just notice parts in my country are more expensive by about 30% :/
-something light and as portable as my other requirements allowed.
-an all round PC for doing some software development and some gaming (i'm not hardcore)
-can last for years (5 atleast definitely and still consider an ok PC spec)

Ability to expand within below requirements:
-will only ever use 1 GPU
-Probably 2-3 hard drive (2 is acceptable)
-will add memory when I need memory for future proof (gonna buy 8gbx1 atm)
-Using only air cooling, no plan to use liquid ones so probably have space for air flow
-parts should not be expensive to replaces. (maybe MITX parts are so much more expensive)
-might add some other components that may come out on future (1-2 other cards that allows me to extend maybe USB ports etc? who knows what will come in the future)
-always aim for above average performance so it is mostly gonna build with more on value to money concept in mind.

Current Specs in mind:
Processor : I5-8400 (enough power for me for coming few years definitely)[strike][/strike]
CPU Cooler: Do i even need one for stock card?
GPU: GTX 1050 Ti (I only need it to be able to play in medium/ok settings for some AAA games later years)
MOBO: Z370 series (what is ok for me?) / B370 (heard it is coming but not sure if it is worth to wait)
Storage: 250gb SSD (can't decide m.2 or normal versions fast and not too expensive is good) + 1tb HDD / 500gb SSD (i've got external HDD so no problem with 500gb for me). Some of these drive are so small like a RAM which makes me think MITX is so possible.
RAM: 8gbx1 stick and depends on MOBO for its frequency
Casing: Micro as I'm not proficient at building at desktop to face heat and space issue for parts.

Can't think of anything to add for now. Thanks first for your advice.

Will these specs on mitx cause heating problem when playing games on high load?
After some consideration, I think i will go with Micro-Atx. Do not want to risk overheating issue as i'm not quite good at building a pc.



 

RCFProd

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Seems like RYZEN suits everything you need, and just offers more with the additional cores/threads.

For the case and motherboard I would suggest mITX, since you prefer it to be portable. Either one of these cases:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RgVBD3/silverstone-rvz03b-mini-itx-desktop-case-rvz03b
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6htWGX/silverstone-case-sstml08bh

One is stylish, the other one has a handle bar for extra portability.

A reference build I'd think would work really well:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($145.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($92.70 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB OCV1 Video Card ($217.76 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone - RVZ03B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1009.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-07 09:13 EST-0500
 

lperreault21

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($113.75 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($82.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1085.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-07 09:28 EST-0500

GTX 1070?
 
CPU - You have the budget for the i7.
CPU COOLER - The stock Intel cooler will be just fine for the i5-8400 or i7-8700.
MB - You can wait for the new H or B series chipsets, but it could be well into the first quarter before they are available.
MEM - Always install memory in matching pairs to take advantage of the dual memory controllers. A single module will have you in single channel mode (reduced performance).
SSD - M.2 or SATA III will be the same performance if they are still SATA based drives. NVMe are all M.2 / PCIe, but SATA based drives can be both on the SATA III or M.2 interfaces.
GPU - If you can stretch the budget (which it looks like you can), the GTX 1060 6GB is your best option for gaming on high settings at 1080 resolution.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($339.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($126.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($269.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1180.17
 

sales.hosini

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Guys, I just notice the price conversion for components is totally off from the currency exchange to USD. take a GPU for example

MSI N1060GTX ARMOR 6GB DDR5 192BIT OC - $385 usd at my country. Can't really afford anything above GTX 1050 ti ($220) or I will have to compromise many other parts.
I've adjusted the budget to around $900 to more realistically match the components price in my country.