AMD FX 8320 Hot.... upgrade ?!

Jordan260 · Dec 7, 2017

Hey guys, been running this AMD FX 8320 for a few years now (mainly for gaming) just of late ive been noticing the cpu fan is getting rather loud. When checking the temp in HWMonitor or OCCT at full load i am getting 79 Degrees c and the core speed throttles from 3.5 > 1.4/5. I've disabled cool'n'quiet in bios but it still throttles.

Is it time to bite and bullet and upgrade to an i7 or i5 ?
or should i purchase and after market cooler ?

Full specs :
AMD FX 8320
12 GB RAM
GTX 1060 6gb
1TB HDD
2TB HDD
120GB SSD
730w Thermaltake SMART SE 80+ BRONZE CERTIFIED MODULAR PSU 14CM FAN ATX2.3 APFC

Thanks for any advice or help you can give.

feelinfroggy777 · Dec 7, 2017

Your CPU temps are high, but not terrible. Considering your CPU is not aging well, I would not put any money in that platform but save for a newer i7 or a Ryzen CPU. The 8320 is holding back your 1060 some.

Jordan260 · Dec 7, 2017

feelinfroggy777 :

Upgrading to either will require a new motherboard aswell, My current motherboard is an AM3+ socket.
Should i switch to Intel or are the RYZEN CPU's as good ?

feelinfroggy777 · Dec 7, 2017

Jordan260 :

Yeah, your biggest problem is an upgrade would require a whole new platform. AM3+ is dead. So you would need a new CPU/mobo/RAM. None of those parts will be compatible with your current setup.

For gaming, Intel CPUs are better. But Ryzen CPUs are still very good, especially for workstation type task. If you just game, then I would go with the new Intel i5 8400. It is the new gaming king when it comes to price vs performance ratio. But it is a locked CPU. If you like overclocking and have more room in your budget, then go with the 8600k or 8700k. All three provide comparable gaming performance.

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madmatt30 · Dec 7, 2017

Well the temps are beyond terrible ,72c on the core is throttling temp for fx chips.

A dirt cheap deepcool gamnaxx 300 will bring those temps right hack within spec (a gammaxx 400 would be preferred., b AF)

feelinfroggy777 · Dec 7, 2017

madmatt30 :

You are absolutely right! I am thinking Intel temps and not fx temps. 79C is really high.

mjslakeridge · Dec 7, 2017

If you are using the stock cooler, and it has been installed since day 1, perhaps the thermal paste has dried out and is no longer effectively allowing the transfer of heat from the cpu to the base plate of the cpu cooler. Try cleaning the old paste off and applying some new thermal paste. It should help you lower the temperatures. I would buy an aftermarket cooler, you don't have to break the bank. I use a Zalman on my FX6300 and it runs cool and quiet.

dudeman509 · Dec 7, 2017

A simple, cheap 212 Evo did wonders with temps for my FX-8320 and could be carried over to whatever new build you do in the future if you wanted to. Never saw it go over 140F under 100% load at 4.5 GHz.

Jordan260 · Dec 7, 2017

So I just bit the bullet and bought a new mobo/ram/cpu/paul and gpu with the plan of selling on my old stuff.

I bought an i7 7700
Gigabyte b250m-ds3h motherboard
16gb Crucial ddr4 ram
GTX 1070 mini 8gb
240gb Kingston ssd
600w Aerocool integrator psu

Now my problem is once I’ve built all this into my old case (I’ve experience building) I can’t get the thing to power on. I have put in my old 1tb and 2tb HDD as they have my games on. In the past I’ve known the problem to be the front panel connections, but I’ve been fiddling for hours now and just can’t get the thing to power up.

mjslakeridge · Dec 7, 2017

Did you try momentarily touching the 2 power pins on the front panel header on the motherboard with a metal screwdriver? Did the case's motherboard standoffs match up with your new motherboard?

Jordan260 · Dec 7, 2017

I haven’t tried that yet, taking it to the shop tomorrow morning. Will have them take a look. I’m thinking it could be a faulty mobo.

madmatt30 · Dec 8, 2017

Dude , change that PSU.

You spent what ?? A grand or so ?? & then used one of the worst quality psu's on the planet.

Jordan260 · Dec 8, 2017

It came as a bundle package, just took off the things I didn’t want (case/HDD/cd drive/ windows 10) Do you think the psu could be the reason it’s not turning on ?

madmatt30 · Dec 8, 2017

You still have the thermaltake psu ??

If so try it instead.

Unlikely to be the PSU being faulty , just I don't think the aerocool is good enough quality to be running an expensive component list like that on .

Worth trying though as you have a confirmed working psu sat there .

What case are you using ??

Is the system completely dead ?? Or is nothing powering on at all ? Not even the psu fan ?

Jordan260 · Dec 8, 2017

I have tried the thermaltake psu and that gives me nothing either, I took everything apart from the mother board out and back in and still nothing. Bare bones. The only thing that happens is the front fan led’s come on for literally a fraction of a second. I’m back off to the shop where I bought the stuff from yesterday, see what they can suggest.

madmatt30 · Dec 8, 2017

If the psu fan isn't even powering up it sounds like a mix up between power button & reset button on the front panel connector mate..
Either that or a dead board as you say.

I assume you can try both psu's in your older system ??

madmatt30 · Dec 8, 2017

Try removing gpu completely & plug monitor to the onboard video outs.

Jordan260 · Dec 8, 2017

Yeah I’ve fiddled about with the front connectors, made sure + and - are correct but nothing. Thankyou for your advice, massive pain in the backside figuring it out.

madmatt30 · Dec 8, 2017

+ & - orientation doesn't actually make any difference anyway mate,they're there simply to complete a circuit.

It looks like a 12v short somewhere to me,what case is it ?? you dont have any fan controllers etc plugged to the board at all anywhere ??

I would take the board out of the case,set it up on the box it came in (not on top of the anti static bag as its conductive- straight on the cardboard) plug in minimal components ,meaning simply cpu & ram ,plug monitor to onboard video & just the front panel connector to the case (orientate it so it will reach)

Jordan260 · Dec 8, 2017

No fan controllers, I’ve tried a bare bones startup but it still didn’t power up, the shop opens in about an hour. I’ll report back what they say

madmatt30 · Dec 8, 2017

Yeah fair enough , your lucky to have a physical store close by, there's nothing within 50km of where I live nowadays.

Remember what I said about the psu , swap it for something better.

Thermaltake & aerocool are bottom rung of the ladder on quality.

Jordan260 · Dec 8, 2017

Okay so I’m a dumba**. Only ever built with modular psu’s In the past. So apparently I put the gpu power into the motherboard and motherboard power into the gpu, killing the mobo and psu.

Luckily I think the cpu and gpu are fine but still a rookie error. Sorry for wasting everyone’s time.

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