Gaming PC(600-900€), need a little help...

cuecasgamer · Dec 10, 2017

Hi, im a gamer but honestly, I dont know much about PC Builds
So I came to this website(by a suggestion of my friend)to put a "help request" on the forums.
I dont know if there are missing parts but if so, comment below what I can change(same performance, other parts and cheaper).
Intel - Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor
Asus - PRIME B250M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
WD blue 2 TB
EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card
Cooler Master - MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
(I think 2 monitors are worth so Im putting both,1 big for games and 1 for other stuff like discord,etc)
Asus - VE248Q 24.0" 1920x1080 Monitor
Asus - VE198T 19.0" 1440x900 Monitor

If some part is missing, please report it in the comments.
Thank you for your time

R_1 · Dec 10, 2017

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (€74.59 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€83.38 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€67.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€68.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card (€161.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (€33.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€88.85 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €579.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-10 11:32 CET+0100

change the country in the corner, click on the flag I just went with De because of the currency.
the 7100 is not worth the money with the 4600 around
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4600-vs-Intel-Core-i3-7100/3894vs3891
results are a generalization only but the differences in price are not reflected in the performance difference.
2 sticks of RAM will enable dual channel memory, I changed the GPU to a cheaper model that will perform as good if not better. I have used and trust Zotac as a brand. the Case was crazy expensive with no real payoff or need so I changed to a different unit. the power supply you chose was good. the G3 is amazing with well over twice the warranty length, 7 yrs vs 3 for the CS.
the system will easily handle dual monitors. I left them off the list as the first was not on pcpartpicker.

ArchitSahu · Dec 10, 2017

I presume those are euros? If so, I went to France and picked out these parts. They may be cheaper in your country.

PCPartPicker part list: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/DWQm4C
Price breakdown by merchant: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/DWQm4C/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€151.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€124.95 @ LDLC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€90.12 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€53.16 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€46.96 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card (€279.90 @ Amazon France)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Gray) ATX Mid Tower Case (€50.71 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€63.67 @ Amazon France)
Total: €861.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-10 11:43 CET+0100

The Ryzen 5 1400 is pretty good for budget gaming and paired with a 1060 6GB makes it a force to be reckoned with.

8 GB of RAM is pretty good, and will be sufficient for your needs. An SSD and an HDD are both included in this price list, giving you the mass storage of a HDD as well as the fast storage for the SSD. The motherboard also allows for future upgrades of the CPU, and OC down the road with an unlocked CPU if you want. An OS is not included, but an ISO downloaded from the Windows Website can allow you to use the computer.

cuecasgamer · Dec 10, 2017

Is Pentium really worth it? I think an i3 is better, and the pc is very cheap so it could be more expensive(better parts, keeping the same budget, 900€ max) R_1
In Storage, the better for gaming is 2 disks(SSD are faster than HDD) so having kingston 120 GB in the PC would not be good because GTA5 would fill it with 70GB, so yeah.
Between Intel and AMD, my brother got some problems with AMD so it sometimes crash from nothing.
The case I chose is cool but thanks to your comments, Ive chosen is the thermaltake(although it has many holes for the PC to cool, making it easy for dust to enter right?).
So im keeping some parts and changing anothers but this thread is still not solved.
Thank you R_1 and ArchitSahu for answering.

ArchitSahu · Dec 10, 2017

cuecasgamer :

AMD has pretty much resolved that issue, and it is pretty good. It seems a pretty viable option for your budget.

The 120GB SSD is for the OS, and perhaps you can load up Steam on that and GTA V and whatnot on the HDD.

What is your exact case? What exactly are these holes? The ones where you put the fans?

It is better to stick to 2 x 4GB RAM for dual channel performance, and to step up to the GTX 1060 as it is much more powerful.

What country are you in? That would allow a more precise build within the budget given.

cuecasgamer · Dec 10, 2017

I live in Portugal.
The holes I refer are the ones in top of the case and that might be better for dust to enter, a dangerous thing for PCs.
So the case I wanted is the Cooler Master - MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case.
SSD question is solved.
8 GB ram and an GTX 1060 is fine(perfect for gaming)
AMD is the better option than i3 then?
Thread still not solved, thanks for answering again Archit.

R_1 · Dec 10, 2017

the previous pentiums were just dual core dual thread, the 4600 and the 7100 are basically the same chip, 2 core 4 threads, a few hundred mhz difference, a few more extensions.
https://versus.com/en/intel-core-i3-7100-vs-intel-pentium-g4600
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/294/Intel_Core_i3_i3-7100_vs_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_G4600.html

cuecasgamer · Dec 10, 2017

R_1 :

I decided to put AMD since it is better than i3 and Pentium?Although if you have a counter to AMD, feel free to post

R_1 · Dec 10, 2017

cuecasgamer :

does the 900 include the monitors. I assumed the monitors were part of the 900 in my first build.

cuecasgamer · Dec 10, 2017

R_1 :

cuecasgamer :

does the 900 include the monitors. I assumed the monitors were part of the 900 in my first build.

Yes it includes the 900€ budget(keep in mind I dont want 2 monitors 22 inch, I wanted 1 big for gameplays and the other for discord, google chrome, etc...)

R_1 · Dec 10, 2017

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€148.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€71.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€110.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€68.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card (€161.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (€33.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€63.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: BenQ - GL2450HM 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (€134.75 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: BenQ - GL2250HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (€112.76 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €907.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-10 13:15 CET+0100

went AMD as asked, 1 large and 1 small monitor, both same resolution and refresh rate so it should be easy on the eyes. overclock ready motherboard and RAM.

cuecasgamer · Dec 10, 2017

Is zotac trustable?
Also, Ive made that question about the case about the dust, can you answer?

ArchitSahu · Dec 10, 2017

cuecasgamer :

Zotac definitely is. I have owned 3 Zotac cards and they worked pretty well for me.

Dust will, of course, be a recurring problem, but these can be solved by dust filters. There is also the thing that not too much of dust will enter, depending on the position of your PC. If you keep your PC on the floor, there will be a lot of dust that will of course accumulate. But I keep my PC on the desk, so there is not a lot of dust that accumulates.

R_1 · Dec 10, 2017

I can verify that the air pressure created by fans when the case is on the floor will in effect vacuum the floor into the case.
dust removal is a matter or maintenance, like changing oil in a car, regular blowouts with canned air will remedy any dust issues.
dust filter are great and all but if you fail to clean them you end up in a position of cooking the PC due to lack of airflow. either way you will need to regularly open and "dust" the system.

pc's and dust go together like PB&J. a monthly blast wit canned air and your done.

I have cats so I have to deal with dust and hair. my pc is on desk and the issues resolved with maintenance every month or so.

the only dust proof system I can recall is an extreme cooling scheme where the system is submerged into an aquarium filled with mineral oil, which is too far to go for dust is you ask me.

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