Is app timer a good indication or real life performance? Does speed of opening & closing programs reflect real life scenario

Bruno Vincent

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I'm doing some tests and comparing various machines, from with HDD and SDD, ranging from pentium n4200 to i7 7700hq and i5-8400

Using this utility:

https://www.passmark.com/products/apptimer.htm

Now I have noticed something...although cinebench from i5-8400 compared to n4200 is 7 times faster...for opening and closing program on same HDD and SSD, the i5-8400 is only about 30% to twice as fast...

Now for other tasks, the i5-8400 trounces the n4200, for example running the internet on Chrome, for example:

Opening up 12 tabs, same ISP, same sites:

n4200 = 40 seconds
i5-8400 = 5 seconds

Opening and closing Komposer app with i5-8400 HDD
0.600 milliseconds average

Opening and closing Komposer app with n4200 HDD
1000 milliseconds average

The zipping and unzipping speeds are also nearly identical...

Is the benefit of a faster CPU only synthetic and for web browsing? I don't ever game.



 
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A faster cpu benefits anything that needs more cpu power. Web browsing doesn't need a powerful cpu. You'd get similar experience on an older core 2 than that i5. As long as you have enough performance there is no difference. Just because a ferrari is better performing than a civic doesn't mean it's any better at getting groceries.

You may see a difference opening 12 tabs but you aren't constantly opening/closing 10+ tabs. Opening software doesn't use the cpu much so you aren't going to see a big difference. That is mostly on storage and just because you use the same ssd and hdd doesn't mean they are getting the same speed on both systems. It is real world as this isn't a synthetic test but how fast software opens isn't a big deal...
A faster cpu benefits anything that needs more cpu power. Web browsing doesn't need a powerful cpu. You'd get similar experience on an older core 2 than that i5. As long as you have enough performance there is no difference. Just because a ferrari is better performing than a civic doesn't mean it's any better at getting groceries.

You may see a difference opening 12 tabs but you aren't constantly opening/closing 10+ tabs. Opening software doesn't use the cpu much so you aren't going to see a big difference. That is mostly on storage and just because you use the same ssd and hdd doesn't mean they are getting the same speed on both systems. It is real world as this isn't a synthetic test but how fast software opens isn't a big deal. Using software is the big deal.

Un/zipping should see a huge difference if it's actually compressing files. If you are just un/zipping uncompressable files, it isn't doing anything but grouping them into a folder so is going to be nearly identical.

For basic pc tasks a cpu doesn't matter much. This is the primary reason why office pcs are lower end specs and also why mobile and tablets are selling more. Performance of hardware keeps going up but the performance needed for the same old basic tasks does not so people can get lower end hardware without it affecting usability.
 
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Bruno Vincent

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Great answer ;)

So I have a dilemma here...

I built this i5-8400 with 16 Gigs or RAM, and I miss my mobility with a laptop, I don't game ever, no multimedia, I do web design, productivity and some occasional Adobe AI graphic design work.

I'm kind of ruling out the n4200 option.

But thinking of selling the desktop and getting a more powerful laptop.

My options are:

1. Asus Vivo Book with i5-8250u
2. HP power pavillion with i5-7300hq
3. Hp power pavillion with i7-7700hq

Witch one would you recommend? I'm looking for close to i5-8400 performance if possible...