Why am I getting bad FPS?

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dreadbeat

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I understand if no one feels the need to answer such an open-ended question like this, I feel pretty dumb for asking.

Namely WoW, PUBG, and recent releases all run like crap, no matter how low I set everything. Only games I get steady 30 fps or higher are Rocket League, CSGO, and overwatch.

I recently made an upgrade from a GTX 970 and a 6 core AMD to an 8 core. I also still run on 8 gigs worth of RAM. I'm curious, do I really need to have an Intel processor?

Any help would be appreciated.

GTX 1070
AMD FX-8320 8 Core
SanDisk SSD
8 GB DDR3 RAM
Windows 7 Clean Install
Gigabyte AM3+ AMD DDR3 1333 760G HDMI USB 3.0 Micro ATX Motherboard GA-78LMT-USB3
 
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The IPC of Ryzen is easily on par with Haswell, which is still plenty for WoW. Yea Intel is better, but you pay more for it right now. AMD still wins the price/performance race. OP, if you cannot afford a new CPU, board, and ram, you may want to try for a used 4th gen Intel setup. I have a friend who has an i5 4590 and has no CPU related issues with WoW. His GTX 560 ti is holding him back, at this point. Another friend is playing with a Xeon E3 1231v3 and a GTX 970 and no issues there either.
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dontlistentome

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There won't be a big difference going from an FX 6xxx to an FX 8xxx. In gaming they are very similar.

We can get an idea of what's going on if you use something like MSI Afterburner to monitor CPU and GPU usage while you game. If the CPU is up at or near 100% while the card is lower, that means your CPU is holding you back.

In PUBG that makes sense, since PUBG is very demanding. WoW is an open world game with lots of players, so that's also CPU intensive. Esports games, like CSGO/Overwatch/Rocket League are not demanding on the CPU. And what do you know, those are the games that run best for you.
 
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As others have noted, you're not going to see a big difference in your new CPU. Assuming the previous one was a 6300, the only actual real difference is the extra cores; they run at the same clock speed and have more or less identical single core performance. You'd only see a boost in games that actually use that many threads, which aren't many. It would have been a better upgrade if this PC was for a workstation.

There's also the possibility of throttling. A 125W CPU on an entry-level AM3+ motherboard is not recommended due to the poor voltage regulation on less-expensive 970 boards and pretty much every 760G one. The chipset wasn't even originally designed to run with AM3+ processors.

Lastly, you're not going to get much of an upgrade from your GPU upgrade. A 1070 is certainly better than a 970, but you don't have the components to really take advantage of that.
 
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Ryzen is great, but WoW also prefers Intel chips so it depends more on the upgrade budget.

But it is almost definitely the CPU.

WoW and PUBG are notorious for their poor optimization.

Legion also took a massive dump on older systems. I have a coworker who got 60+fps before the update (with a 2nd gen i5) is now getting less than 30 in Legion.

Bottom line if you want more performance, you need a modern CPU.
 
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The IPC of Ryzen is easily on par with Haswell, which is still plenty for WoW. Yea Intel is better, but you pay more for it right now. AMD still wins the price/performance race. OP, if you cannot afford a new CPU, board, and ram, you may want to try for a used 4th gen Intel setup. I have a friend who has an i5 4590 and has no CPU related issues with WoW. His GTX 560 ti is holding him back, at this point. Another friend is playing with a Xeon E3 1231v3 and a GTX 970 and no issues there either.
 
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from all the benchmarks I have ever seen, ryzen is more along the lines of stock ivy in terms of IPC

for gaming of course
 
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