BSOD on new build. RAM issue?

frasergillies23

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I have recently built a new PC with a fresh installation of windows but receive seemingly random and untriggered BSODs. I have run all tests (DISM, chkdsk, sfc, etc.) and returned no errors. I also ran the built-in memory check in windows. After that had completed, I received a message saying that there is an issue. I also ran the memtest86 for good measure, and it returned 3 errors on test 8 alone, after running for ~3 hours. I know it passed the first test with no errors, and then on the second loop, errors were found.

After researching, I think it may be defective RAM. What else can I do to make sure this is the case before I may waste time and money replacing them? I noticed that when gaming, the crash hasn't happened yet, only when the PC is idle or not doing much (Google Chrome etc.)


I used 'WhoCrashed' to decipher the Minidumps and this is the return of the most common Blue Screen:

On Mon 11/12/2017 11:21:48 your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\121117-7812-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntfs.sys (0xFFFFF80E46F45494)
Bugcheck code: 0x109 (0xA39FEED89E08B8B8, 0xB3B6FB5EF089B973, 0xFFFFF80E46F45494, 0x1)
Error: CRITICAL_STRUCTURE_CORRUPTION
file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ntfs.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT File System Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that the kernel has detected critical kernel code or data corruption.
This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.

 
Solution
Try changing ram timings.

Currently they are on 16-16-16-39 @2400mhz.
Change to 18-16-16-39 @2400mhz. Also try changing command rate to 1T.
Run memory tests. If it still fails change timings to 19-16-16-39 @2400mhz.
Repeat the tests and, if still fails, increase to 20-16-16-39 @2400mhz.
Repeat the tests again.
"I know it passed the first test with no errors, and then on the second loop, errors were found"

First pass rarely finds errors unless the RAM is riddled with them.

Second & successive passes are what counts, so your RAM is definitely faulty.

If you have two or more RAM modules installed and you want to avoid scrapping the good ones, test each one separately.
 

frasergillies23

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Okay. Thanks for your reply. The errors found were low in number (3) compared to other tests that Ive seen; some have thousands. Does this not matter?
Also, would it be worth changing the RAM from slots 2/4 to 1/3 and testing again?

Cheers.
 

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I have run Chkdsk and have found no errors on any drive.
As for the pics: https://imgur.com/a/Egyl7
 
Try changing ram timings.

Currently they are on 16-16-16-39 @2400mhz.
Change to 18-16-16-39 @2400mhz. Also try changing command rate to 1T.
Run memory tests. If it still fails change timings to 19-16-16-39 @2400mhz.
Repeat the tests and, if still fails, increase to 20-16-16-39 @2400mhz.
Repeat the tests again.
 
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Okay. I will try this when I get time. I will report once I have. Thanks.