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Hi there, my cpu wouldnt take more than 2 sticks of ram even though it supports 8 gb ram and i am putting 2 gb 4 sticks. two rams work in any slot. all configurations tried. did everything. plzhelp. My specs are:
Core2 duo E8400
Motherboard D975xbx2
350 W Psu
4gb ram currently 2 sticks.
 
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Well, if all of the RAM works in one, and not the other, then I'd use that one. Otherwise, there is no page where they are compared. I had to look through the product manual for each board, and that's something you can do just as easily as I. Simply look up the board by model number and open the user manual up. Sorry, but I don't really have time to do much more than that on this. Hope you get it squared away though.
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With only two sticks installed, try going into the bios and upping the DRAM voltage by .05v. Save settings and shut down. Install the other two sticks. Try to POST. If no love, then shut back down, pull the two sticks out, and try upping again by .05v. Save settings, shut down, Install the two sticks again and try to POST.

If you get no love by the time you've added .2v total, probably isn't going to happen without an OC on the CPU. Overclocking the CPU may not even be possible depending on the CPU and the motherboard. OEM motherboards rarely, if ever, allow overclocking as the OEMs don't want users messing with things and creating situations where they have to deal with unnecessary warranties.

Might not happen anyhow if all the sticks were not purchased in a matched/tested set. There are NO guarantees of compatibility between modules EVEN if they have the exact identical part number when purchased separately. Too many variables. Different batches from different production runs can have memory chips that don't play nice together from one batch to the next or may have slightly different sub settings. Best bet is always to run two modules that add up to the amount of RAM you desire and are purchased together in a matched set.

Further, sometimes four modules, which adds increased voltage strain to the memory controller, simply won't all run at a specific speed and may need to be downclocked in order to do so. Motherboard and CPU manufacturers never guarantee that a particular speed can be run when four modules are used. USUALLY it can be made to work, but not without a fair amount of tweaking settings in the bios and SOMETIMES not without an OC on the CPU depending on the chipset, CPU and memory configuration.

Other times, it just won't work, period, without all modules being tested and confirmed to run together which is how you get them in a matched set. Occasionally, even then a set of modules will refuse to run together especially if it's a quad set being run in a dual channel motherboard.
 
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Hey thanx for your help, i have a question. i am uploading the pics of my BIOS and can u tell me the problem from these pics and how to change it so that every ram will work. thanx again. im a noob i dont know really how to mess with rams.
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I believe you will need to press enter while the "automatic" entry next to Performance memory profiles is highlighted. That should open up the sub menu system. Impossible to tell you how to do it without being in front of it. I have no idea about the specific settings on that particular motherboard. Being a very minimal bios type board, it's possible that there might NOT be any user configurable memory settings, but I suspect that if you can get automatic turned of or get past that automatic setting, there will be a sub menu. Probably, you will want to get somebody with more experience to help you or simply get different memory and use only two modules that are matched in a set and add up to the amount of memory you actually want.

If you can get past that screen I MIGHT be able to help you, but there are no guarantees it will work anyhow.
 
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Thanx so much again. i was able to go past that screen and enabled the user defined instead of automatic. now i see frequencies and other stuff plz guide me. i have all the rams with 5300MHZ. here are the pics.
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Thankyou very much for your support.
 
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Still isn't likely to work though, because there are no settings for the memory voltage. Voltage, not speed, is the likely problem. I was hoping once you got past that spot there would be a user configurable voltage setting for the RAM but there does not appear to be unless there are voltage settings on a different tab than the Performance tab or further down the page where I cannot see.
 
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I looked through the user manual for your motherboard and there are no provisions for making adjustments to the memory voltage on that Intel motherboard. Sorry, but it does not look like it is possible.

One thing you CAN try, is installing all four modules, then remove the cmos battery for five minutes. Then, reinstall the battery and try to boot. That might reset the hardware configuration and allow the bios to auto configure the memory settings. Also, it would be a good idea to go check and see if there are any newer bios versions available for your motherboard. A newer bios version would be more likely to support additional hardware or configurations. Seems there are two separate bios revisions through the years that added memory support so there's a good chance it would help if you do not already have the latest bios version.

Bios update and instructions can be found here:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/16896/BIOS-Update-BX97520J-86A-?product=24744
 
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Thanks for reply. Isn't there any software for this. Voltage setting z and what if i changed these speeds and the other things 5 5 5 15 . What do you suggest
 
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There is no software that can help. Memory has to be compatible and functional on a hardware level as seen by the BIOS before it could ever get into an environment where software could be of use. I suggest that it will not work and you need to find two 4GB sticks of RAM that come together in a set if you want to be sure it will work. There's nothing else that's going to work unless MAYBE you can find two more sticks of RAM that the EXACT same part number as the two sticks you already had in the system.

Even then it might not work, so getting just two new sticks that are 4GB each in a tested matched set is your best bet. Good luck.
 
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Hi there again, sorry for reply to this thread too i thought it will be faster so.
i just found a motherboard from a friend . the name is intel DQ965COKR and i got it for free. is this board better than this D975XBX2. i mean bios support and windows 10 installation wise. and the guy i got it from says it had 8gb ddr2 ram . 4 sticks of 2gb. plz help required. i wanna change my current Intel D975XBX2 due to no win10 64 bit support and ram problem. plz help quick.
 
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It MIGHT have better memory support, I can't really say on that, out of the box, but if it does not, then you will again be out of luck as that board also does not have any memory voltage setting options in the bios.

Mostly, only aftermarket motherboards by companies like ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock and MSI are going to offer much in the way of user configurable settings in the bios. Those OEM Intel motherboards were meant specifically for use in workstations and mainstream systems that did not need nor require advanced enthusiast configurations.

Certainly you can try it, but honestly you will probably find that it is much the same as the board you already have.

Another factor MIGHT be that the other modules you are trying to use are simply not compatible with the ones you originally had installed.

Knowing the part or model numbers of all memory modules would help to determine if that is the case or not.
 
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thanx for quick reply.i asked thatguy and he said the same rams ddr2 can be put in it without problems. and i wanted to know that i wanna install win10 64 bit which cant be installed to the current board. so will that be a go?
 
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The E8400 CPU does support 64bit operating systems, however, I have recently seen many people having issues with using the Windows 10 and Windows 8/8.1 64 bit OS versions with older Core2 and Core Quad CPUs because there are specific 64 bit instructions they do not support which are used in Windows 8.1/10 but are NOT used in older 64 bit operating systems like 64 bit Windows XP, Vista or 7.

So again, you can TRY it, but there are no guarantees. Strictly based off 32 vs 64bit support, it should work, but that has nothing to do with the motherboard really. The CPU and operating system are the primary factors involved.
 
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can you plz tell me the differnece between these both boards. i really wanna have a final look at both and then decide to do something. thanx again.
 
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oh ... i dont even know what that even means. like which one is better and newer even if slight. sorry to bother you so much.
 
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What it means is, BTX motherboards are designed upside down from ATX motherboards. BTX is a form factor that Intel used for only a very short time, and was supposed to replace the ATX form factor. It didn't work out though and was abandoned. So BTX and ATX motherboards will not generally both work in the same type of case as everything would be in the wrong place trying to use one type in a case designed for the other type.

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thanx sir for elaborating so good. i intend to keep this motherboard open as ill put a gaming ard i it and the rams etc and i wanna play the game i am playing right now but with 8 gb ram. so is the current board better than the other or is the other better performance and support wise.
 
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Actually, they are almost identical aside from the form factor. I don't see anything in either boards specifications that makes it stand out from the other one. Really, no difference at all except the orientation of where everything is on the board due to the different form factors. I don't think you'll be any better off with one than you are with the other.

I think you are simply trying to get somewhere that you can't for free. Unless somebody is willing to give you more RAM exactly the same as the two modules you originally had or a motherboard that has options for changing memory settings, voltage, etc., I don't see it happening.
 
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yes sir you are absolutely right, i have someone in the USA and they are sending me a mobo supporting core i 5 so i dont know alot about that board but definitely an improvement. i just wanted to know for the time being about these two boards that if they are so much identical , i will not loose any gaming if i changed my current to the next right? just wanna see a change for a while coz this newer board supports rams easily (TESTED).
 
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Well, if it works for you, then it works for you. I cannot really say since I am not there, but you may be right. As I said before, it MIGHT have better support for the memory but it SEEMS like both those boards have the same support according to the specs. But if it works, then that's cool and run with it then.
 
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thanx again. one last question or help. can you plz give me a link where these two boards specs are compared coz i cant find. coz whichever one is the slightest bit better than the other , i will take that. thanx again.
 
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Well, if all of the RAM works in one, and not the other, then I'd use that one. Otherwise, there is no page where they are compared. I had to look through the product manual for each board, and that's something you can do just as easily as I. Simply look up the board by model number and open the user manual up. Sorry, but I don't really have time to do much more than that on this. Hope you get it squared away though.
 
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thankyou very very much. You are THE best . the way you replied and the way u solved everything for me is just amazing. Thnx alot, i will surely see u in the future.
 
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