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Shahroze

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I need opinion if upgrading from e5400 to core 2 quad 2.6 or 3ghz would give me any significant increase in gaming on dota 2 and other similar games . It's coupled with 4gb ram and Radeon 4850 512mb. Kindly let's not get into building another system or anything else. yes I know the said specs are too outdated.
let's just keep the discussion to e5400 vs core 2 quad 2.6 or 3ghz....
I say 2.6 or 3ghz because my local vendor will confirm in 2 days which one is available. will the upgrade give me any significant increase in fps right now I get around 30+- in full team fights on medium -low setting
 
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I had a Q9650 @4ghz running on a ASUS P5E3 PRO X48 running DDR3 1600, I didn't replace it till last year it was still pretty solid in modern games matched with a 1060.
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Finding a cpu benchmark of said game which Tom's nicely did some time ago -> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dota-2-performance-benchmark,3481-8.html

Shows that Yes DOTA 2 wants 4 cores/Threads. As you can see from the graph when looking at the results from similar architectures the jump from 2 to 4 cores shows a significant improvement in Framerates that is far beyond the clockspeed improvement (Because for some reason they chose to use higher clocked chips.). So based on this it is possible that your avg framerate on your E5400 could become your minimum framerate after upgrading, but that depends on what your GPU is capable of.
 
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Moving to a Quad will help stop the spikiness but unless you have the ability to overclock and look into a Q9XXX chip you wont see a major increase. Your GPU is also on the weak side and lacks Vram which is holding things aback as well.
 
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So based on this it is possible that your avg framerate on your E5400 could become your minimum framerate after upgrading, I'm sorry this confused me could you explain what you meant by it. appreciate your reply
 
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@Delaro, I thought the game lagged in team fights because of my cpu. maybe I'm wrong but dota 2 is not that graphic intensive and from what I've searched it seems the 4850 should easily pull it off with 40avg fps at medium setting
 
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Here look at what is recommended now for smooth game play its separated by resolutions.

http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/dota2

A q6600 and a 4850 would work for low to medium mix settings and your FPS would be around average 40fps.... but that that still leaves you dipping to the 30's quite often...... unless you can overclock. That combo puts you at what most would consider minimum for frame rates.
 
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Again thank you for replying Delaro, You see I'm already getting 30+- fps in team fights my main concern is to get better fps in team fights I keep the settings medium to low keeping shadows and other like settings off. my average fps currently is 40+ but I feel my cpu gives is what lags in team fights. I guess I'll go ahead with the upgrade and then only it will tell if I have an increase or not. Can you list me some core 2 quad processor which would be better. My dealer couldn't recall the model but he said either it would be 2.7 or 3ghz
ps: in above post I meant cpu not gpu
 
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What I mean is your current average framerate which you list as being about 30FPS (team) would become the minimum framerate when you have a quadcore CPU. This means that instead of having an average of 30FPS that dips probably to 20 or so you would have an average above 30FPS (say 40FPS or so) that would only dip to 30FPS. But as that graph was based on a different GPU than you have and a faster one at that. Not to mention years of patches to DOTA 2 between that time and now. Meaning your results will be different. How much I can't say but it will for sure be better than what you have now, I don't see the changes in DOTA making the game utilize less cores than previous versions.
 
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Your going below 30 FPS if your getting input lag or jitteryness the CPU is probably at 100% load.

Some of the more affordable and easier to find CPU's are the Q9XXX series.

Q9550 "2.83ghz" around $28 on eBay
Q9650 "3ghz" around $50 on eBay or the Xeon E5450 "$25" with the $2 adapter and a little moding.

It depends on your board to what you can support though the earlier boards wont run anything higher than a Q6700.

 
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Okay so I went ahead with the cpu I got
Q9550 and the difference in performance is beyond my expectations the darn cpu was holding me back. I'm playing dota 2 at high and medium setting with 60+- fps and it drops down to 40+- in full team fights. Cs go is giving me constant 65+ pm high settings. the previous cpu was bottlenecking the system
and it's worth mentioning multi tasking and switching between games is a breeze now
I read a lot of forums and it seems although it's pretty old the core 2 quad Q9550 gives a tough time to many modern cpu with the hefty 12mb cache and 1300fsb it's a beast
 
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It's good for the tasks you're doing and it's great you're getting performance you're happier with, but let's not go nuts here; even an FX-6300 has like 40% faster single-core speed. If you're planning to be more ambitious and try modern AAA games, that CPU will start to struggle.
 
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