best desktop money can buy for after effects and 3dmax c4d rendering
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The Original Ralph
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your best bet is going to be found in one of the forums where folks using the programs you're running hang out. Reason i state that, is some programs are core hogs, ie love as many cores the cpu has to offer and uses them all heavily, while other programs prefer clock frequency and don't seem to show a need for a large number of cores
I'd ask in one of the forums discussing 3Dmax crd rendering, to see what other's are running
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I'd ask in one of the forums discussing 3Dmax crd rendering, to see what other's are running
fwiw
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i9-7900X 3.3GHz 10-Core Processor (£852.70 @ More Computers)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£128.03 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X299-DELUXE ATX LGA2066 Motherboard (£369.89 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£330.94 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£205.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£85.47 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (£725.03 @ More Computers)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£99.96 @ PC World Business)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2986.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Does this sound about right for what you need? Could probably trade some gpu power for a few more cpu cores.
CPU: Intel - Core i9-7900X 3.3GHz 10-Core Processor (£852.70 @ More Computers)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£128.03 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X299-DELUXE ATX LGA2066 Motherboard (£369.89 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£330.94 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£205.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£85.47 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (£725.03 @ More Computers)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.98 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£99.96 @ PC World Business)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2986.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Does this sound about right for what you need? Could probably trade some gpu power for a few more cpu cores.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i9-7940X 3.1GHz 14-Core Processor (£1043.76 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£104.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF X299 MARK 2 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard (£199.19 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£607.66 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£205.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.95 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC BLACK Video Card (£698.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.50 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£124.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £3114.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-22 19:51 GMT+0000
I am not % 100 familiar with these programs, but i know some are CPU/Memory hogs.
CPU: Intel - Core i9-7940X 3.1GHz 14-Core Processor (£1043.76 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£104.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF X299 MARK 2 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard (£199.19 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£607.66 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£205.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.95 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC BLACK Video Card (£698.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.50 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£124.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £3114.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-22 19:51 GMT+0000
I am not % 100 familiar with these programs, but i know some are CPU/Memory hogs.
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the rig jwcrellin detailed wouldn't be a bad rig - i'd increase the memory to at least 64 GB if not 128 GB
and i don't know you'd need a 750 watt PSU. My rig detailed below, with a similiar TDP for the CPU, (an 8 core cpu) never hits over 190 watts when rendering even with the cpu showing 97-99% load. You might want to add a 2nd NVMe PCIe SSD - i use one as a "worktable" SSD, where i put the file i'm going to render, and another NVMe SSD to write to - that's when i get my quickest results. Writing back to the same NVMe SSD or to a Sata SSD is much slower - my render times dropped when i added the 2nd NVMe PCIe SSD.
That cpu supporting a Max Turbo Frequency 4.30 GHz is especially nice, as clock frequency is as important as core count. But you might want to keep something in mind - you're not going to render 4K movie files in a few minutes.
When i render a 4k movie file, and they run 115 - 165GB, it'll run 40-65 minutes approximate. I won't even bother rendering 4K files on another computer i originally set up for video rendering, that only has a 4 core cpu.
I hope you weren't hoping for 10-15 minute render times - that 7900x will bring the times down from what i see on my rig, but i doubt you're going to break below 25 - 40 minutes on most movie files - 4k files are always kind of on the large size
if cost is truly no object, you might want to look at the intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition Processor with 18 cores, but that jewel is $2000 USD
FWIW
and i don't know you'd need a 750 watt PSU. My rig detailed below, with a similiar TDP for the CPU, (an 8 core cpu) never hits over 190 watts when rendering even with the cpu showing 97-99% load. You might want to add a 2nd NVMe PCIe SSD - i use one as a "worktable" SSD, where i put the file i'm going to render, and another NVMe SSD to write to - that's when i get my quickest results. Writing back to the same NVMe SSD or to a Sata SSD is much slower - my render times dropped when i added the 2nd NVMe PCIe SSD.
That cpu supporting a Max Turbo Frequency 4.30 GHz is especially nice, as clock frequency is as important as core count. But you might want to keep something in mind - you're not going to render 4K movie files in a few minutes.
When i render a 4k movie file, and they run 115 - 165GB, it'll run 40-65 minutes approximate. I won't even bother rendering 4K files on another computer i originally set up for video rendering, that only has a 4 core cpu.
I hope you weren't hoping for 10-15 minute render times - that 7900x will bring the times down from what i see on my rig, but i doubt you're going to break below 25 - 40 minutes on most movie files - 4k files are always kind of on the large size
if cost is truly no object, you might want to look at the intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition Processor with 18 cores, but that jewel is $2000 USD
FWIW
thanks.
as i said i need the best of the best so u said intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition Processor . if i got that processor and all the top quality parts that was provided in above post will it render 10min 4k video fast?.
u se i wonder how hollywood render king kong animation so fast i want the best and powerfull pc so i hope u can recommened good pc and not cheap.
also the intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition Processor can it run max 4k game ?.
should i get i7 6700k or i9 for after effects
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not sure what you mean by "10 min 4k video fast" - whatever you are rendering that processor will smoke thru it, but if you mean rendering a 2 hour 4k video in 10 minutes, it won't.
The strongest reason supporting that 7980XE cpu is that it won't be long and 6k videos will be available, so you're future proofing yourself to some extent. If you want what hollywood studios use, then you might want to visit some of the video editing forums to see what the professionals use - i'd assume double xeon cpu motherboards with two CPUs
in the above build, i really would increase the ram to minimum of 64 GB and buy it as a matched set of 4 sticks (16GB each) if you can find it.
As to the Xeon CPUs, i have no experience or knowledge with them
thanks for the kind reply.
the intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition as you said it will smoke through it , do you mean it will be fast at rendering.
also this processor can it run any 2018 games on max settings on 1080p display ? and not 4k display.
can u confirm intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition that this cpu is better then i7 6700k and is it good for rendering , if u had a choice will you buy this for rendering or will you buy other cpu ? cause in render speed is needed so i am looking for the best intel cpu and other parts that goes with it i dont want to end up getting the wrong stuff and be stuck cheers.
i ment is 10min video length 4k video clip taken from drone , can i add little effects and test render will it be fast.
i found this
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-core-i9-7980xe-4.6ghz-ddr4-extreme-overclocked-pc-fs-001-8p.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_4bjgOWm2AIVh7_tCh3A_gDKEAQYBCABEgL1YvD_BwE
looks good will this be fast at rendering bro
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" do you mean it will be fast at rendering. YES
also this processor can it run any 2018 games on max settings on 1080p display ?" ALSO YES
"can u confirm intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition that this cpu is better then i7 6700k and is it good for rendering" AND ALSO YES
"i ment is 10min video length 4k video clip taken from drone , can i add little effects and test render will it be fast." EXTREMELY FAST
The computer described at https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-co... is more than a waste of money - you could build that computer for half that, easily
if you own your own oil wells, then go with that prebuilt computer, but otherwise i'd look at other vendors - there are custom builders there in UK and here in the US that will built that computer for far far less
also this processor can it run any 2018 games on max settings on 1080p display ?" ALSO YES
"can u confirm intel i9-7980XE Extreme Edition that this cpu is better then i7 6700k and is it good for rendering" AND ALSO YES
"i ment is 10min video length 4k video clip taken from drone , can i add little effects and test render will it be fast." EXTREMELY FAST
The computer described at https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-co... is more than a waste of money - you could build that computer for half that, easily
if you own your own oil wells, then go with that prebuilt computer, but otherwise i'd look at other vendors - there are custom builders there in UK and here in the US that will built that computer for far far less
am happy with the info your providing and i was hoping if u can spare the time to help me make custom rig maybe for budget 3 to 4k uk pounds or more dont let the $ hold u back just get me the best specs
so that i can then se your list and write it down and order them all.
i will get this i9 extreme only if u think its best thanks sir.
1: will this also run 4k gaming or stuggle ?
2: am happy with your info so far satisfied just need the list from you as am sure you know your stuff.
3:the i9 extreme looks $expensive is this the cheapest , can i find other venders selling for discounted price.
4: will it bottle neck in gaming ?
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If i were building a computer around the 7980SE cpu, below is what i'd pick. FYI, you can go to https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ and insert or select your own components, and parts picker will automatically flag you when components you've selected are incompatible
CPU Intel - Core i9-7980XE 2.6GHz 18-Core Processor £1735.90
CPU Cooler - Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler £77.99
Motherboard - ASRock - X299 Taichi ATX LGA2066 Motherboard £281.76
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory £804.16
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD £82.16
Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £269.99
Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £269.99
Western Digital - Gold 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £104.97
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card £725.03
Case Aerocool - DS 200 ATX Mid Tower Case £57.99
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular £94.99
Optical Drive LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Monitor LG - 27UD68-P 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor £399.99
Total: £4904.92
That price also includes a 4k 27" monitor (400 uk pounds)- if you're going to be editing 4k video, you need a 4k monitor. If you're only going to be editing drone footage, you can get away with a $100 1920x1080 monitor
- it also includes a 4k capable blu-ray player
Memory - i went with DDR-2666 as that CPU, as most of the X series, only supports 2666 - anything faster would be a waste - i learned that mistake on my 5960x cpu.
I went with an air cooler as if you google for and review any of the cooler comparisons, you'll find there's never more than 1 or 2 degrees C between the Noctura DH-15 and the watercoolers - considering the complication of water cooling, the noise of the water pump, and the risk of leakage (while small), risk of pump breaking down, and they do, i just don't see the return for all that. Air cooler is much simpler and reliable
The case has two external 5.25" bays - one for the blu-ray drive, and the 2nd, i like to use for one of the two bay hot swap trays https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-2-5-Inch-Internal-Tray-Less-KF-251-BK/dp/B00475DQ6Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1514317097&sr=1-1&keywords=kingwin+Dual+Bay+2.5+tray. That AeroCool case also has really good airflow and is very quiet plus it has a number of internal HDD bays for expansion
I connect one tray to a sata port, and the 2nd one i only connect a power cable to it. Reason is, Sata SSDs require power to keep from corrupting data on them, but i like to do a complete clone of my OS drive once i've set it up, cloning it to a samsung sata SSD and as it's connected to a Sata port (not thru USB) it clones in 20-25 minutes) then I move it to the 2nd tray without a sata connection - that way i know a virus or malware can't infect it. But the purpose is, when i am hit with a virus, rather than go thru the 6-8 hour ritual to totally eradicate that virus, i can simply clone the backup drive back to the OS drive and be back in business in short order.
If you go this route, just remember to first boot up on the backup drive, then do a "wipe" on your OS drive, in fact wipe it 3X, then clone the backup back to the OS drive
hope that helps
if you do build that rig or any other, once you've got the parts, read the motherboard installation manual twice (i'm assuming this will be your first build) - read all instructions carefully and take your time. The first you build, and hit the power button to fire it up for the first time, you'll almost feel like a new father.
If you have any questions during the build be sure to post here - there'll be a lot of folks that'll be glad to help
fwiw
PS - if you want to reduce the cost, i'd change the following items
Samsung 960 PRO 512 GB to 960 Evo 500 GB, savings of 54 uk pounds each, x2 = 108 uk pounds
MSI GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB to MSI GTX 1070 Ti 8G 8 GB savings = 265 uk pounds
CPU Intel - Core i9-7980XE 2.6GHz 18-Core Processor £1735.90
CPU Cooler - Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler £77.99
Motherboard - ASRock - X299 Taichi ATX LGA2066 Motherboard £281.76
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory £804.16
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD £82.16
Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £269.99
Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £269.99
Western Digital - Gold 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £104.97
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card £725.03
Case Aerocool - DS 200 ATX Mid Tower Case £57.99
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular £94.99
Optical Drive LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Monitor LG - 27UD68-P 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor £399.99
Total: £4904.92
That price also includes a 4k 27" monitor (400 uk pounds)- if you're going to be editing 4k video, you need a 4k monitor. If you're only going to be editing drone footage, you can get away with a $100 1920x1080 monitor
- it also includes a 4k capable blu-ray player
Memory - i went with DDR-2666 as that CPU, as most of the X series, only supports 2666 - anything faster would be a waste - i learned that mistake on my 5960x cpu.
I went with an air cooler as if you google for and review any of the cooler comparisons, you'll find there's never more than 1 or 2 degrees C between the Noctura DH-15 and the watercoolers - considering the complication of water cooling, the noise of the water pump, and the risk of leakage (while small), risk of pump breaking down, and they do, i just don't see the return for all that. Air cooler is much simpler and reliable
The case has two external 5.25" bays - one for the blu-ray drive, and the 2nd, i like to use for one of the two bay hot swap trays https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-2-5-Inch-Internal-Tray-Less-KF-251-BK/dp/B00475DQ6Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1514317097&sr=1-1&keywords=kingwin+Dual+Bay+2.5+tray. That AeroCool case also has really good airflow and is very quiet plus it has a number of internal HDD bays for expansion
I connect one tray to a sata port, and the 2nd one i only connect a power cable to it. Reason is, Sata SSDs require power to keep from corrupting data on them, but i like to do a complete clone of my OS drive once i've set it up, cloning it to a samsung sata SSD and as it's connected to a Sata port (not thru USB) it clones in 20-25 minutes) then I move it to the 2nd tray without a sata connection - that way i know a virus or malware can't infect it. But the purpose is, when i am hit with a virus, rather than go thru the 6-8 hour ritual to totally eradicate that virus, i can simply clone the backup drive back to the OS drive and be back in business in short order.
If you go this route, just remember to first boot up on the backup drive, then do a "wipe" on your OS drive, in fact wipe it 3X, then clone the backup back to the OS drive
hope that helps
if you do build that rig or any other, once you've got the parts, read the motherboard installation manual twice (i'm assuming this will be your first build) - read all instructions carefully and take your time. The first you build, and hit the power button to fire it up for the first time, you'll almost feel like a new father.
If you have any questions during the build be sure to post here - there'll be a lot of folks that'll be glad to help
fwiw
PS - if you want to reduce the cost, i'd change the following items
Samsung 960 PRO 512 GB to 960 Evo 500 GB, savings of 54 uk pounds each, x2 = 108 uk pounds
MSI GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB to MSI GTX 1070 Ti 8G 8 GB savings = 265 uk pounds
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