Is an HP Phoenix H9-1130 graphic upgrade to Gigabyte GTX 1070 possible?

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MY QUESTION:
Can I put a Gigabyte GTX 1070 on a M3970-AM motherboard and get it to work? Are there changes I can make in the bios perhaps that will let me use this graphics card? Any other suggestions besides the painful obvious of 'get a different card?' I am computer literate but because I so infrequently do things to the computer at this level, I'll need more detail and guidance than someone who works on them all the time if there is a solution.

BACKGROUND
I have an: HP Phoenix: H9-1130 with a M3970-AM motherboard. I purchased a Gigabyte GTX 1070 graphics card. On the Motherboard compatibility list at PC Specs, it is the Galax that is listed as compatible, not the Gigabyte. An oversight on my part.

The motherboard compatibility list at PC Specs says: "These graphics cards (listed) have the appropriate interface to work with and fit into the HP M3970AM- (Angelica2). Because this motherboard does not have an onboard GPU chip, we've also limited integrated GPUs to only those that are built into a CPU's die."

I'm honestly not tech savvy enough to understand what that means and if it means there is no workaround to get my Gigabyte card to work. My monitor won't come up when I install the card. Yes the HDMI cable is plugged into the card. Yes the 6pin+2 wire from the PSU is plugged into the card. The card slot is PCI-e 2 which should work with this card.

I do realize that as my computer is older, I might be pushing the PSU a bit because of the age, and might need a bigger PSU. When I installed it, the fan did run on the card. (I am also concerned, as the case is very tight for this card but it will fit, that heat may be an issue ultimately. If I get it running, would I do better to leave the side of the case off to help reduce heat?) I am looking to do some 3D rendering. The Radeon has been adequate for the level of gaming I do.

Additional info: Windows 7. Current graphics card is a Radeon 7670. PSU 600. Processor AMD FX-8120. 64 bit. 16 GB. 6 USB (I believe at least 2 are USB 3). ASUS DVD RW, Multiple card readers unit. My monitor (single) is a ViewSonic HDMI 1080p 22".

I deeply appreciate assistance on this.


 
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What is your PSU? can you list its brand or model? because not all the 600W PSU can handle the gtx1070.

So if the PSU can handle the gtx1070, then
1) Using the Hd 7670, download the DDU to uninstall the AMD GPU driver in safe mode, and shut down the PC, switch the gtx1070. Boot the PC to see the PC will work or not, if it will work, then update the gtx1070 driver from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx if it does not. You need to update the BIOS.
2) plug the hd7670 back, check your MB BIOS version to see HP has the newer one or not, if they had one, then update the BIOS.

DDU http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

 
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My PSU is a switching power supply, DPS-600WB A Rev 2 Made by Delta Electronics. It was what came with it. I was contemplating a Corsair RM 650x as an update to the PSU. I had dowloaded the new driver for the 1070 and I think updated the bios as well to the newest version, but knew I had to do something else to kick it all into gear and wasn't sure what that was. I will give this a shot tomorrow and see if I can get it running and post with success or failure or questions. Thank you
 
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Thank you. I'm sure I would have failed to.
 
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that power supply is a cheap chinese tin can, replace asap

sadly all the cpu's that motherboard supports are utterly inadequate for a 1070, and as such getting anything higher than a gtx 1050 ti would be a waste of money


so unless you plan on completely upgrading your setup soon, return the 1070


for rendering a complete new platform would have been a much better choice
 
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Well unfortunately, returning it is not an option. As I've replaced the hard drive, DVD drive, power supply now, and hopefully soon the graphics card, it is what it is. When I can afford a new motherboard, I'll get one, but the coffers are empty. *shrug* It'll be better than what I had if this works. If not, then I'll just have to wait for rendering until I can afford a machine that can do it but that will probably be a year or so.
 
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Unfortunately, there was no joy. Computer would not boot beyond the initial screen. I have the most current BIOS Actually I found one a few days newer than HPs. That one had been installed a while back and was what I was running. I dropped back to HPs published one in case maybe they had something that would allow it to work, so no joy in that regard. Any other suggestions or is my graphic card simply a paperweight until I can upgrade my motherboard?

 
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Thanks for your assistance regardless.
 
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Can you recommend a motherboard that might work with what I've already got? Preferably one compatible with Kingston 4GB 1600MHZ MOD single Rank Mem. That way I could at least look at prices to get a feel for how much I need to save
 
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all new platforms require ddr4


or you are looking at used, which would be a i7 4790k setup with a z97 mobo to properly use a 1070

if you are rendering then you want at least 16gb of ram


your current amd platform is utterly obsolete and buying anything new for it is madness


 
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My current platform was completely adequate until I wanted to do some rendering for jewelry designs and do some artwork. But moving in that direction does mean I have to upgrade sooner than planned. Re the DDR4--Yes I was coming to that conclusion as I was looking over boards. I was looking at the Z370 boards maybe and running with an i5. If my 1070 is doing the rendering work, then I should be able to get by with an i5, shouldn't I? I'm not doing animation, I'm rendering images for 3d printing, and maybe some book covers or other artwork and models for programs like Daz3D. Right now I"m looking Daz3D and Blender for my programs of choice. I can live with a 10 hour render, but would prefer shorter, obviously. I was wondering if I could swing it with 8 GB ram, but okay, I'll do 16. If I become competent in the programs and find I enjoy it then it would be worth the investment to a faster system. Does a Z370 mobo and i5 seem reasonable? I can live with my card being a little under utilized. I just don't want to get something that the card is inadequate for.
 
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you do want the cpu to keep up, so an i5 8400 is a good choice

 
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Okay. I was considering the 8400 or 8600K. Thanks. I'm hoping tax return may let me get my system by March. Again, thanks for your help. I think I found a site that's listed some decent builds for rendering
 
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