Opinions on prospective system build

gooberz

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Hello everyone,

Thanks for reading first off. Here's the background; I did a build back in 2013 and I have reached the end of the road with my current rig. Like to play PUBG and the simple fact is I am missing a lot of enjoyment running on lowest possible settings with still low frame rates and performance.

Current rig:
MSI 2A9C, Intel core i5 650 3.2 ghz, 8gb ram, gtx 650 ti boost 2gb

Prospective rig:
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i7 7700k 4.2 ghz quad core $326
cryorig h5 universal cooler $47
asrock fatal1ty z270 gaming k6 atx $140
g.skill ripjaw V series 16gb (2x8gb) ddr4 3000 memory $200
evga gtx 1060 6gb sc video card $270
fatal1ty 550W power sup $0.00

Not really experienced in this field. Did some research getting this combo. I already have the power supply and drives from a previous build and the power consumption estimate gives me a lot of buffer (pc part picker estimated 335W).
The price is really on the high end of my budget and more than I would like to spend, but I want this to last me a long time. Possible changes I see in this are the ram cards. I want 8gb sticks for 16gb. so I can expand to 32 if I ever see the point. But the ram I picked is pretty pricey.

Can I do this or better for less? Do not want to sacrifice any on performance.

Also, given that I am relatively inexperienced in this area as mentioned I probably wont overclock but I want the option later on and also the 7700 (notthe 7700k) operates in the mid 3ghz range which I think is way too low for a build for the future. Want to keep it 4+. No liquid cooling, dont want the risk, even if minimal. Thanks for the inputs.
 
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Intel is the king of the gaming performance.
AMD is not capable of high refresh rate/FPS at the moment, and will not be at least for another year or so.
For gaming - the build i suggested is undisputably the very best.
AMD is the king of multithreaded performance for the buck, but not in gaming/streaming.

gooberz

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Thank you for your reply and time.

So the 8700 having more cores and more threads is great but at 3.7 GHz seems to throw a question in my mind which may be based on misinformation so please tell me. My lack of knowledge leaves me with looking at benchmark comparisons between the two and I am missing one thing. Many games have poor optimization, which I believe is a widely agreed upon statement. Isn't that primarily the case because the games cannot utilize all the cores properly? So effectively if I played a game, such as PUBG or others and they are not fully optimized then I would get much worse performance out of the 8700 than the 7700? The PC games are getting better but optimization is far from perfect imo even in new releases.

Separately it is close in price but as mentioned I am already at the high end of my budget. What are inputs on the RAM. From what I gathered the ones I picked out are pretty high end cards. Will this setup even be able to use that ram to its potential or should I down grade slightly? Not familiar at all with ram comparisons like is 3000 worth the price difference of those at 2660? I could go for a cheaper ram memory setup and spend it on the 8700k, but that also pops that question in my mind, is the 8700k right for what I want?

Thank you again for the help.

 
bad optimization means not really efficient code that does not utilize efficiently available resources.

The base clock of 3.7GHz is not important as the CPU will run on higher clocks than 7700K.
Games will run better on 8700 simply because they have more resources (cores and frequency at stock). If 8700K is out of range, get i5-8600K it is still does same or even slightly better job than older 7700K. in most benchmarks they perform comparably, but 6 real cores are better than 4 cores 8 threads.

What is your total budget, what parts do you have and what you need to buy ?
 

gooberz

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Very max 1000.

I have all storage and a 550w psu to transfer over which may or may not end up being replaced. The 550w fatal1ty, not sure if that should be upped yet.
 
If the PSU is working, no reason to replace it. your system will consume under 250watt while gaming.
here is a complete list of parts (some exactly like yours some a bit better). the major change is the CPU which is way more feature proof and even in some today's games showing an advantage over the 7700K. It is slightly over 1000, but not critically. If you absolutelly have to fit the 1000, some adjustments can be made with simpler MB and RAM.


CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($389.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Plus Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($141.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($175.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($269.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1024.63


 

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Think i could get more powerful pc going with amd for the money i have to spend? I have heard from some they offer compatible stuff for less. never had amd myself. I dont want it to be just limited to intel
 
Intel is the king of the gaming performance.
AMD is not capable of high refresh rate/FPS at the moment, and will not be at least for another year or so.
For gaming - the build i suggested is undisputably the very best.
AMD is the king of multithreaded performance for the buck, but not in gaming/streaming.
 
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