20 Second Boot Time On NVME.

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I am thinking the issue is with the motherboard, but I am uncertain. It takes ~20 seconds to reboot/boot my new computer.
I don't believe my RAM is on the compatibility list for the Mobo and is stuck as 2133, but I have tried every combination of it 1 and 2 sticks in each slot.
Tried an extra PSU.
Updated bios to most current.
Reset the cmos.
Reinstalled windows on the 960 evo.
Have no AV installed and made sure all drivers are up to date (including the samsung drivers).
I did have any issue with the computer randomly restarting and black screening on me, forcing me to hit the power switch on the PSU, so idk if something is fudged due to that.
It seems to get stuck at the bios for the longest time, once it hits windows it's almost instant.

If anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate it, or they can confirm that it is likely the mobo, I can try to replace it.
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can you try running userbenchmark on your pc and see if its up to par with your current setup against most users average performance on the same hardware? if its performance score is like at least 50-60% percentile then you are okay. if you got a high end motherboard to support your nvme. you could reach like 90% and above percentile rank.

it could be your bios delaying the startup. some MOBOS have explicit delay start up settings. like the logo or that time for you to allow you to press DEL/F2 delay what nots.

 
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I have the same issue. I was only able to knock off a couple of seconds by enabling “fast boot” in the BIOS so I’m sitting at around 17 seconds on my 960 Evo. My motherboard is the Asus Z170AR so we have the manufacturer in common.

I have heard that some boards take a while to boot while others don’t. It all had to do with the BIOS. Also, having USB ports populated can make the BIOS take longer to hand off control to Windows.
 
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http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/6462680

I turned off the delay in Bios already and have turned on fast boot. Also don't have any external HDDs plugged in, just my keyboard an mouse as far as USB goes. Last reboot took 27 seconds, and I timed it sitting at the Asus splash screen for at least that long.

Just seems like an oddly long time to boot for an m2, my old system using a 4790k, and crucial SSD (non m2) takes about 10 seconds.
 
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yes that is a long time. since mine only took like 10secs average as well with the 3sec explicit logo delay. well it depends on your mobo and a whole different other factors. some mobos have really good heatsink and really good bandwidth on the pcie controller used on the board.

have you already installed the Samsung NVME Controller? get the latest one? also updated your BIOS?

 
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Yeah, downloaded the magician software for the Nvme, up to date drivers, and my motherboard bios is the most current.

I know the B350 Strix is a mid-range board, but I don't think it's that far off in performance from the X370 Strix, so I'm not sure if it'd make much difference trying to replace it.
 
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how did you install your windows btw? i hope you did it from a usb as a fresh install and NOT a clone.
try checking again how you screwed in your ssd in the heatsink. and if you removed the plastic covering from the green rubber as well. and dont try to screw in the heatsink too tight. too much pressure on it might degrade its perfomance somehow. also try checking again your BIOS. the default "optimal" settings may not favor your m.2 pcie speed. try to check it if its on "auto" or just explicitly set it to "gen3"

i also checked your motherboards manual. it stated the following ;
*5 When a SATA / PCIE mode M.2 device is installed, the M.2 Socket shares bandwidth with the SATA6G_5/6 ports.
*6 When a SATA mode M.2 device is installed, the M.2 Socket shares bandwidth with the SATA6G_5/6 ports

try switching out your sata devices.
 
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"20 seconds" from when, exactly?
From pressing the power button?
If so, what you see is absolutely normal.
The BIOS has to do its thing first. Once that goes away, then and only then does the NVMe come into play.

I expect you're seeing no more than 10 seconds from AFTER the BIOS finishes to the actual desktop. Which is perfectly normal.
The NVMe drive has nothing to do with what happens before that.
 
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mine is just 7-10 secs actually from the powerbutton :/

but like i said before OP. it depends on a whole lot of factors. cpu, ram. and i saw your benchscore on your ssd so you shouldnt worry about your OS load speed from cold boot at all since its read/write speeds are working as advertised.
 
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I installed fresh from a USB both on the original install and the reinstall to fix the random reboot issue. The plastic covering from the green rubber, is this from the end of the m2 that goes into the slot? If so, yes. Also made sure not to over-tighten it, although, maybe I'm insane, but it looks ever so slight slanted down due to where the screw sits.
I don't have any other devices outside of my GPU and M2 which is in the only M2 slot on the mobo.
I'll take a look through the bios settings again in case I missed something.

20 seconds is the time it gives me in task manger. If I time it on my phone from the time I hit the power button, all but about a second of that is bios splash screen, and the last second (probably less) is Windows. This is why I was wondering if it's a possible Mobo issue or if it's normal for the am4 motherboards to sit at bios forever.
 
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you can try using the software SOLUTO. its a free software to analyze boot time behaviours on your system. or the Windows Performance Toolkit (screenshot)

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I went in a changed a few options in Bios and got it down to 12.8 seconds according to task manager, which is better obviously, but still seems slow compared to my old computer. I really think it's just a mobo issue. I'll try Soluto though.
 
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