My 1600X seems to throttle in a game? Please help

Tronlo

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I believe I am experiencing throttling in euro truck simulator 2 with promods. I do not experience this in base game. When I'm driving sometimes, my truck seems to slow down massively constantly, even though my truck speed is the same. It then fast tracks and slows down again every few seconds. Oddly enough I am not able to replicate it every time, but I did experience this only yesterday. Could the throttling have a random chance when I turn on my pc? It didn't seem to me like fans weren't working during the throttle or something like that.

Specs:
ASRock X370 Killer SLI
Ryzen 5 1600X (not overclocked)
GTX 780Ti
Corsair H110i (two fans)

I am measuring my temps with ryzen master.

My idle temperatures are quite high in general. While my pump shows around 30 in Corsair link, and my fans are on performance mode (1800rpm on idle), my CPU temperature can jump up to 52 degrees. It stays constantly at 40 to 52 degrees when my pump is on quit mode and fans are on performance when I am not playing or testing.

I tried to change the cooling modes, both for pump and fans, but it seems to make negligible difference. For example a performance mode for pump and max for fans, the cpu can still jump to 52 degree idle. Honestly it seems that when everything is set to quiet its all the same.

I don't know if I am actually able to see the gaming temperature. I can only see it when I minimise the game, so I am not sure if that counts. Also I don't have a powerful enough game to test it but maybe if stress test doesn't show anything I will.

I am currently doing a blend pime95 test and my cpu is at quite steady 53 degrees, not going beyond 53.5, in the first 2 minutes. Its now getting to 56 degrees after 5 minutes. I am going to continue to see if anything changes and post my results. My pump is on quiet and fans on performance.

I had a bit of difficulty placing the cooler but I never took it off. It was sliding around a tiny bit but it doesn't seem to me like it would cause air bubbles to form in the cooling paste as long as it wasn't completely misplaced.

The air from fans can get a bit warm but the plastic window on the side of my pc doesn't feel hot to the touch, maybe mildly warm when I game for 3 hours straight. Right now during stress test the air coming out from the cpu fans feels cooler than the room and the case is room temp, which is around 23 degrees.

Any ideas regarding what it could be?

Update: I got bored of prime95 after 40mins as the temp went no higher than 57... I tried intel burn test at standard and high and my cpu is also no higher than 56oC during the test. Could it be a GPU issue?


 
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There shouldn't be thermal throttling so even if your cooler wasn't working correctly those temperatures are normal. I also find Corsair Link to be one of the worst monitoring programs, even though I have the Corsair H115i V2 on my PC.

(taken from a previous thread here on Toms already answering this question on temps): The max temps on the Ryzen chips are 95c so the perfect temps would be somewhere between 70c-80c at full load.

Sounds like the MODS are the issue if the only game having an issue is the MOD side of this game you are playing. Do you play any other titles you can see if you are experiencing this issue?

The minimum requirement to run that game is a GeForce 4 series. photonboy is likely correct narrowing it down to a...
56degC is not high at all. There's ZERO chance of the temperature throttling your CPU.

P95 shows it's fine.

Your "slowdowns" are more likely to be a GRAPHICAL issue but it's hard to say without more details. By graphical I mean maybe some details in the scene that drop your FPS because the GTX780Ti can't keep up.

However, I really don't understand your issue and you say it "not able to replicate it every time" so I'm not clear on how to help.

So...

I'd really need to say run OTHER GAMES (preferably single-player to avoid NETWORK bottleneck issues), as well as benchmarks like Unigine Heaven to see if you have any problems with those.

**And "promods" means MODS of some sort?

If so then there's your answer. It would still be a CPU or GPU bottleneck but the code might be so INEFFICIENT there's not much you can do about it.

When you say "base game" works but the "promod" version doesn't I feel like my answer is thus don't use those mods? (Again assuming you meant mods... don't want to assume)
 

Tronlo

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Yes it is a very popular mod that only adds maps and buildings. My GTX 780Ti is an MSI graphics card, you think this might be the issue? I have 3 fans at the front I believe and one at the back. The 2 cpu fans are at the top taking air out. The problem might be that the case doesn't exactly have much holes for air to flow out from, its an nzxt h440. It has thin strip at front and at the top. Its 31 degrees idle I'll try to stress test and put some results up soon.

Update: At 1280x960 0x MSAA my frame rates seem stable at 94 FPS average after 15 minutes on furmark. GPU temperature is steady at 76oC, never going higher.
At 1920x1080 (my resolution) and 2x MSAA min frame rate was 49, average 60 after 11minutes. GPU temp stable at 77oC, never going higher.
Tried x8 MSAA 11520x2160 average 34 fps, min 30. Max temp 78oC and stable.

I am really not sure why I can't replicate what happened. Could it be that my GPU cooler fails to run sometimes?
 

tristerin

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There shouldn't be thermal throttling so even if your cooler wasn't working correctly those temperatures are normal. I also find Corsair Link to be one of the worst monitoring programs, even though I have the Corsair H115i V2 on my PC.

(taken from a previous thread here on Toms already answering this question on temps): The max temps on the Ryzen chips are 95c so the perfect temps would be somewhere between 70c-80c at full load.

Sounds like the MODS are the issue if the only game having an issue is the MOD side of this game you are playing. Do you play any other titles you can see if you are experiencing this issue?

The minimum requirement to run that game is a GeForce 4 series. photonboy is likely correct narrowing it down to a very old game likely not supported by a very good network at all.

In fact after looking into it the MODS etc are not supported by the game and that the network you are playing online (that game doesn't support online play) is player created as well.
 
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sonnieharker

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Enable ryzen master monitoring, and play the game, when this 'slow down' issue happens wait untill it has finished happening, and alt + tab out of the game, check your rm monitor to see if the clock speed went down during the time of slow down. Although i highly doubt this is a cpu problem, and i would suggest lowering texture quality. as the extra decals may be maxing out your vram of your gpu and forcing it to use system ram which is slower and makes the game slower. Good luck! :)