Need input on overclocking a Ryzen 1700 system

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So i bought my system in July and ever since have had problems getting the overclock's i want. my issue is that i only have 3 options when it comes to overclocking that allow my pc to post and pass a torture test. option one is overclocking my Ryzen 1700 to 4.0 ghz and leaving my ram at low speeds (2133). option two is overclocking my ram to 3000 and leaving my Ryzen 1700 at stock. option three is getting a moderate overclock of 3.5ghz on my ryzen and a 2666 overclock on my ram. so i have two questions, why am i not able to get a high stable overclock of my cpu (atleast 3.9ghz) while also getting the 3000 im supposed to get with my ram(psu not strong enough maybe?).i have tried every voltage from 1.3 to 1.45 for both the ram and cpu and nothing. also its not a heat problem and if you had to choose which option from the three i listed of possible overclocks which would you prefer for most performance gains.

here is my system specs : the motherboard is up to date with the lastest bios 3008

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Processor
Fractal Design Cooler s24 240mm (AIO)
evga gtx 1080ti sc2 hybrid gaming
asus rog crosshair vi hero
evga supernova 650 G2 80+gold (to weak for what i want?)
corsair force mp500 m.2 nvme
Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB 7200 RPM
Corsair Carbide Clear 400C Compact Mid-Tower Case
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15
Logitech G600 MMO Gaming Mouse


 
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Actual ram voltage should be left at 1.35v for 3000 speeds.

You don't want to be going over 1.4v for cpu voltage.

The voltage you need to be looking at for ram stability is vdd_soc , it likely needs a bump to get faster ram with the cpu overclocked.

An over clocked cpu puts extra stress on the memory controller & that voltage line is probably suffering voltage droop .

Id set your cpu at 4ghz , set ram to 2666 & bump vdd soc to 1.05 , if successful try 3000 @ 1.10v.
DO NOT by any means go past 1.2v on the soc voltage .

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Are you trying to oc it with asus AI suite? Or trying manual overclock from bios?
RAM and CPU oc is different. First oc your ram by enabling docp profile and find the sweet spot. If default docp is not working then try to put manual timing as per spd info of your ram after applying the desired docp profile. Say your ram has xmp profile of 3000 then select docp 3000 and then try to put timings manually as per spd info table already available in the tools section of bios or you may use any other sw to find it. Possible you can not hit more than 2999 i think i.e. the second docp profile after 3000.
Then oc your cpu. Start with 37 and very minor bump in voltage then stress test and incres clock step by step. Your goal is to hit the voltage wall where increasing voltage will not give you more clock. Don't cross 1.425v for daily oc.
 
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i am using bios for a manual overclock. i know the cpu and ram are different but i stated in my OP i get one to a certain overclock only to find when i start overclocking the other its not stable. i always start with the ram first and i do set the docp to use the max xmp profile for my ram which is 2966 and it boots fine only when my cpu is at stock . i start to overclock my cpu and then i run into problems where as if i leave my ram alone and overclock my cpu i can reach 4.0 no problems so this tells me my cpu and ram are fine and the problem is somewhere in the voltages being used or my psu am i wrong?
 
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Ok that is very unusual.Just asking, is it your first build or not? I just want to know your understanding of ryzen overclocking. Becs it is not supposed to happen unless yr doing something that is not supposed to be done during ocing your cpu/ram. These two overclock is independent to each other.
1. Have you tested stress testing your setup in absolute default? If not try this first.
2. Have you tried with any older bios since you have said you are trying for long to overclock.
3. If you have already tried with older bios, then my question is if this problem is persistent in all previous bios or not? If anything has changed with eventual bios updates?
4. Any unusual voltage irregularity in cpu or soc? or anything messy you have noticed?
5. How you are stress testing your setup?
 
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Actual ram voltage should be left at 1.35v for 3000 speeds.

You don't want to be going over 1.4v for cpu voltage.

The voltage you need to be looking at for ram stability is vdd_soc , it likely needs a bump to get faster ram with the cpu overclocked.

An over clocked cpu puts extra stress on the memory controller & that voltage line is probably suffering voltage droop .

Id set your cpu at 4ghz , set ram to 2666 & bump vdd soc to 1.05 , if successful try 3000 @ 1.10v.
DO NOT by any means go past 1.2v on the soc voltage .

 
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i have had the soc on 1.1v but ill try messing with it some more
 
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