Can I somehow avoid the bottle neck ?

kalimana · Jan 2, 2018

Hello there smart people! (Let me just start that I have almost no idea about bottlenecking and overclocking!) I am here today to ask you maybe a simple,silly question, I don't exactly know.. So My build is g4560 and 1050. People non-stop say that the g4560 wont bottleneck, but today I wanted to see, is it really true. So I played a game for an hour~~ and the cpu was non stop on 70-80% and the 1050 40-50%. I don't know much about bottleneck but I think that is. So is there any way to avoid it ? or I will be stuck like this untill I buy new parts or new cpu ? Thank you for your time

jankerson · Jan 2, 2018

Depends on the game, settings etc.

But yeah it is a Dual Core CPU with HT so it can bottleneck in CPU intensive games for sure.

Zerk2012 · Jan 2, 2018

kalimana :

Your not using 100% of either so it's just doing what it does.
Your using 2 budget items don't stress it.

geofelt · Jan 2, 2018

There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.

Your G4560 has 4 threads.
Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.
Bottom line------------------------------------
Not to worry, your have a nicely balanced budget combo of cpu and gpu.

maxalge · Jan 2, 2018

kalimana :

there was actually quite a bit of testing done on that pentium, because it is so awesome price/performance wise

generally it can keep up with gpu's up to the rx 570 level no problems

you only begin to see it drop off with online games/cpu heavy titles like BF1 and such

with a 1050 there are no issues, you can be assured of getting max performance from it with your pentium

madmatt30 · Jan 3, 2018

Plainly with 40-50% gpu usage you're either running stuff that's not that GPU intensive , youre rumning vsync or you're running lower resolution or lower settings or maybe a combination of all of them.

kalimana · Jan 3, 2018

Okey I got it. Thank you all for your help! For sad reason I can't pick more than 1 solution as you all share the same knowledge

geofelt · Jan 3, 2018

Here are some tests you can do to identify your limiting factors:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

c) You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.

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