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Hi there, a friend of mine is looking for a gaming/streaming PC, for around 1800 euros which is roughly $2100 and £1600. The parts will be bought from Germany, so I should think all parts will be available there, so just the names of them will do. He will mostly use it for gaming, but also streaming, which I guess would go well with a Nvidia GPU since it has ShadowPlay feature, but I'm not sure. AMD or Intel, both are fine.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (€384.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€87.99 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€164.97 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€195.94 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€154.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB SC2 Gaming iCX Video Card (€569.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€53.23 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€73.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (€96.88 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1830.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-04 20:44 CET+0100
 
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This, great streaming PC:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€289.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard (€79.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€195.94 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€59.65 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (€799.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€61.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€113.25 @ Mindfactory)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (€96.88 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1786.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Hope you like it :)
 
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If you just want a link to someplace you can find various German suppliers, keep track of costs and compatibility, and even tag what has already been purchased: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/
you got a supplier that isn't recognized on their list? No problem, you can manually enter a price, or go to a custom entry where a URL will work, OR (upon signing in) manually creating a custom entry if the part isn't found on their site.

If you want advice on various parts, ask away. (here, or on pcpartpicker. Note that I think here at Toms, there is a little more maturity in the responses.)
 
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Taking some time here to assemble a parts list for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (€384.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€134.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€166.76 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€119.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€64.80 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (€465.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case (€76.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€92.26 @ Mindfactory)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (€96.88 @ Mindfactory)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse (€39.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1794.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-04 21:09 CET+0100

This includes OS, keyboard and mouse.
Monitor is extra, as is audio (speakers and/or headset.)
Please let us know if the monitor is needed so we can adjust accordingly.
 
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Thanks for the answers.
Any peripherals are not needed. Neither the OS, sorry should of specified.
About the parts, as I thought it would be between I7-8700K and some Ryzen. The question is which, I heard the Ryzen is amazing at multitasking with it's cores and threads. I also heard that Intel just suffered a major vulnerability, which only OS manufactures can patch and that will take away up to 30% performance on all Intel CPU's depending on task, so I think that a Ryzen build might be suited better, not sure.
Also the idea of a GTX 1080TI sounds, that would surely last a a good couple of years.
As for the rest well, I'm guessing the the difference is minimal. Could the extra $100 from the OS and keyboards be used on something better?
 
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Yes, this. The absolute best mainstream CPU and GPU for gaming:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (€384.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€35.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€129.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€192.14 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€62.15 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (€732.30 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€61.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€109.72 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1798.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-05 12:58 CET+0100
 
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- If he's not overclocking, it's fine.
- Is it? Got a friend that has it and doesn't have a problem... Will look further into the matter. Thanks for the tip. :)
- Completely agree, but PcPartPicker is very poor on germany(don't know why tho). I didn't want to put a 550W unit there because of the 1080Ti but couldn't find a less stronger unit for a reasonable price... Compared to this 550W unit(https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/N6X2FT/evga-power-supply-220gs0550v1) for just $10 more he gets 300W more... Seems a pretty nice deal if you ask me
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€289.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - NEPTWIN V2.0 53.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K3 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€109.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€272.94 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€57.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card (€750.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Rosewill - STAR PREDATOR ATX Mid Tower Case (€52.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX - TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€73.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1803.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-05 17:08 CET+0100

the 1700 will overclock to match a 1800X (3.8 or 3.9 GHz), while the savings over the 8700K allows higher quality parts, notably the PSU, Mobo, RAM, and huge 1.1 TB SSD. the Cooler could also be removed as the Wraith Spire is fairly good for a 3.8GHz overclock.

given that the 1700 will give you smooth streaming at ~100 FPS, it should be great for all streaming.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-streaming-encoding-coffee-lake-ryzen,5326-4.html
 
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Yes, it can...

Here is a revised version of the first build I offered up. This one is upgraded to a GTX-1080Ti (which is way overkill for just 1080p gaming.) There have been some other changes to allow for that GPU though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (€384.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING - FROSTFLOW+ 280 76.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€68.20 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€129.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€147.57 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€119.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC BLACK Video Card (€755.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case (€58.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€92.90 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1806.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-05 17:30 CET+0100


Here is the AMD version.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor (€387.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING - FROSTFLOW+ 280 76.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€68.20 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (€118.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€147.57 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€119.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC BLACK Video Card (€755.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case (€58.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€92.90 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1798.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-05 17:35 CET+0100


AMD will get you better streaming.
Intel will get you better gameplay.

Decide on which is the higher priority.
 
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