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junssasin

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Hi guy i been having this problem lately when ever i game sometime the screen suddenly go black(no signal) i check the control panel for error report only come out this
Description
A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffffc288f8d51270
Parameter 2: fffff8038e0d76c4
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 16b0
OS version: 10_0_16299
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.16299.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033

no blue screen error

i had this problem last time and found out that is the PSU some i got it changed a brand new one and it was ok for the past few month until it comes back again.I already troubleshoot GPU PCI-e slot etc still having this issue.So now i am beginning to suspect my power supply is not enough.i also maybe doubt is overheating but here the weird part when the black screen happen PSU fan run loudly then when i flip over the PSU(fan face up) the same thing happenbut this time the fan is not running loudly
spec:
i7-4790k@4.4GHZ
cpu cooler:cooler master hypere 212x
msi gtx 1080ti gaming x (factory OC)
1 wireless card(tp-link archer t6E)
16GB 1600MHz DDR3
250GB SSD
1tb WD black
5x 120mm fans
cooler master v750 watt fully modular
 
Solution
RememberThe5th
You're gonna have to uninstall Drivers, soo press start hold shift (left one) and select restart while holding.
Then, Windows 10 reboots and asks you to select an option. Choose Troubleshoot.
Then, on the Troubleshoot screen, select Advanced options.
On the Advanced options screen, choose Startup Settings.
Windows 10 says that you can restart your device to change advanced boot options, including enabling Safe Mode. Press Restart.
After Windows 10 reboots, you can choose which boot options you want to be enabled. To get into Safe Mode choose it.

Now before you're gonna reboot into safe mode download DDU and uninstall GPU drivers (Choose Clean and Restart!!!! after you are into safe mode.).
And after reboot download and reinstall them...
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JalYt_Justin

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Code 141 only means that the computer shut down incorrectly. This is one of the few errors that are reactionary and do not have a direct cause.

The general consensus is that this is mostly a software issue rather than hardware issue. You have a very solid PSU so unless it came defective there is nothing wrong with it. It's also more than enough to handle that system.

Update your drivers, all of them, and if that doesn't fix it, then re-install Windows. If that doesn't fix it, then we can start troubleshooting hardware issues.
 
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junssasin

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ok for driver i reinstalled nvidia only any more driver i should be aware? Also i should also mention.The issue happen usually when i play games then when i do 3d mark stress test (3 times) in a row everything when well and passed the test.If nothing else now i will have to observe for a few weeks or so cause it happen randomly
 
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junssasin

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ok it just happen again other then reinstalling window is there still other option for me to do ?

here the weird part when the screen goes blank i can still hear my friends chatting to me and the disconnect and reconnect sound is responsive
 
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junssasin

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ok guy update this time i got a blue screen error (still black screen no signal) here the record
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
Code: 133
Parameter 1: 0
Parameter 2: 501
Parameter 3: 500
Parameter 4: fffff800e6281370
OS version: 10_0_16299
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.16299.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033

Files that help describe the problem
010618-5265-01.dmp
sysdata.xml
MEMORY.DMP
WERInternalMetadata.xml
memory.csv
sysinfo.txt

also i use blue screen view and they said this program is at fault: ntoskrnl.exe
 
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junssasin

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ran a mem test this is the result :
Summary
Report Date 2018-01-07 10:07:28
Generated by MemTest86 V7.4 Free (64-bit)
Result FAIL
System Information
EFI Specifications 2.31
System
Manufacturer ASUS
Product Name All Series
Version System Version
Serial Number System Serial Number
BIOS
Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Version 2902
Release Date 03/31/2016
Baseboard
Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Product Name Z97-K
Version Rev X.0x
Serial Number 150955477600120
CPU Type Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz
CPU Clock 4000 MHz [Turbo: 4300.0 MHz]
# Logical Processors 8 (4 enabled for testing)
L1 Cache 4 x 64K (206621 MB/s)
L2 Cache 4 x 256K (62231 MB/s)
L3 Cache 8192K (44275 MB/s)
Memory 16345M (19001 MB/s)
DIMM Slot #0 4GB DDR3 XMP PC3-12800
G Skill Intl / F3-12800CL9-4GBXL
9-9-9-24 / 1600 MHz / 1.500V
DIMM Slot #1 4GB DDR3 XMP PC3-12800
G Skill Intl / F3-12800CL9-4GBXL
9-9-9-24 / 1600 MHz / 1.500V
DIMM Slot #2 4GB DDR3 XMP PC3-12800
G Skill Intl / F3-12800CL9-4GBXL
9-9-9-24 / 1600 MHz / 1.500V
DIMM Slot #3 4GB DDR3 XMP PC3-12800
G Skill Intl / F3-12800CL9-4GBXL
9-9-9-24 / 1600 MHz / 1.500V
Result summary
Test Start Time 2018-01-07 06:23:33
Elapsed Time 3:16:41
Memory Range Tested 0x0 - 41F000000 (16880MB)
CPU Selection Mode Parallel (All CPUs)
ECC Polling Enabled
# Tests Passed 38/48 (79%)
Lowest Error Address 0x3099A2680 (12441MB)
Highest Error Address 0x30FE0A460 (12542MB)
Bits in Error Mask 0000000000000200
Bits in Error 1
Max Contiguous Errors 1
Test # Tests Passed Errors
Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0
Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0
Test 2 [Address test, own address] 4/4 (100%) 0
Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes] 4/4 (100%) 0
Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern] 3/4 (75%) 1
Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern] 3/4 (75%) 1
Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks] 1/4 (25%) 8
Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern] 1/4 (25%) 5
Test 8 [Random number sequence] 3/4 (75%) 1
Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros] 3/4 (75%) 1
Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0
Test 13 [Hammer test] 4/4 (100%) 0
Last 10 Errors
[Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 30F8C6184, Expected: 73FCB10F, Actual: 73FCB30F
[Data Error] Test: 7, CPU: 6, Address: 30B8C6184, Expected: FFFFFDFF, Actual: FFFFFFFF
[Data Error] Test: 7, CPU: 0, Address: 30F7A1C84, Expected: 00200000, Actual: 00200200
[Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 0, Address: 30FE0A460, Expected: 00000300, Actual: 00000100
[Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 0, Address: 30E409C60, Expected: 00400200, Actual: 00400000
[Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 0, Address: 30DE0A480, Expected: 00000300, Actual: 00000100
[Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 0, Address: 30C409C80, Expected: 00400200, Actual: 00400000
[Data Error] Test: 5, CPU: 0, Address: 30E5A2104, Expected: 096B1869, Actual: 096B1A69
[Data Error] Test: 9, CPU: 0, Address: 30F3A2104, Expected: 9E8C9D59, Actual: 9E8C9F59
[Data Error] Test: 7, CPU: 0, Address: 30E881C84, Expected: 00000400, Actual: 00000600
Certification
This document certifies that the Tests described above have been carried out by a suitably qualified technician on the System described above.
Signed


it failed the test so is it the ram to be blame or i need to do the slot by slot ram troublshooting?
 
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junssasin

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ok so update i troubleshoot each ram and found out one of the ram having error will send for rma but now i still having the same issue this time is nvlddmkm.sys causing it here is a report:
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
Code: 133
Parameter 1: 0
Parameter 2: 501
Parameter 3: 500
Parameter 4: fffff80096a85370
OS version: 10_0_16299
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.16299.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 0x133_DPC_nvlddmkm!gpuSanityCheckRegisterAccess_GF100
 
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You're gonna have to uninstall Drivers, soo press start hold shift (left one) and select restart while holding.
Then, Windows 10 reboots and asks you to select an option. Choose Troubleshoot.
Then, on the Troubleshoot screen, select Advanced options.
On the Advanced options screen, choose Startup Settings.
Windows 10 says that you can restart your device to change advanced boot options, including enabling Safe Mode. Press Restart.
After Windows 10 reboots, you can choose which boot options you want to be enabled. To get into Safe Mode choose it.

Now before you're gonna reboot into safe mode download DDU and uninstall GPU drivers (Choose Clean and Restart!!!! after you are into safe mode.).
And after reboot download and reinstall them, don't use automatic detection software, just choose which windows and which gpu you have (1080ti) and install (run as administrator).

About your connection from PSU to GPU, i see you are using 1 rail of 2x6+2 not 2 rails of 6+2, connect another 6+2 from psu to gpu soo you have 2 cables to PSU, thats the recommended way.
 
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junssasin

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Ok so far I found a “fix” reseat all the ram slot correctly This is werid I swear the ram correctly.At first I though the faulty slot is the cause but when I instead the ram( that have error) to the “faulty slot” it works fine and when I slot all the ram my system is stable .So if there is no problem appear again then the causes is ram “not seated “ correctly.Btw why do you say the recommend way is install two rail?
 
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junssasin

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Update the distributor found that one the ram is faulty and send to gskill for repair now have to wait until around next month for it to arrive
I will update if there is any issue thanks for the help
 
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junssasin

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After using about 2 days I realized the issue no longer happen with the two rail method thanks man didn’t know that it will affect the voltage.Last question though in what scenario can I plug the gpu using the one rail method.
 
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RememberThe5th

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Its like this if your psu can handle 12V on 30A thats =360W+/- max with cpu and GPU soo you gotta care that on PSU label is not same as CPU power pin, yeah a bit complicated.
Or if max rated is 500W on 12V rail soo that consumes with cpu 120W and gpu 200W for example and you are hitting max and rail becomes unstable, just see on jonnyguru psu on oscilator graph that on max load 12V goes crazy.

And also JayzTwoCents tried this and achieved better results, as some in comments asked him to do.

DSCN0022.jpg

Like you see here on this label 500W max on 12V and 42A.
Im electrician i have a degree soo i know power loses and etc.

thumb-T5-12V1.jpg


link for example.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=382
 
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If they have 850W they wouldn't need to care about it.
It really depends in which kind of situation are you in.

And thats why some of people ask this



 
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junssasin

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Just to update it been about two months or so .There is no longer this problem so i think is fixed permanently
thank you once again .
At that time almost decided to get a higher watt power supply
 
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