Question re overclocking after a period

geoffp0115

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Hi,

I have been reading various conflicting views on overclocking, and am not sure what to do. I currently plan on buying a whole new desktop PC with overclocking capabilities(but with the overclocking ability unused at first), and the best(fastest/most reliable) PC components within a reasonable budget(ie - i7-8700 instead of i9 etc.), only occasionally upgrading my graphics cards every few years.The idea is that, as the gamer-debate website starts showing that my desktop PC is becoming more and more outdated, I could get a PC repair shop to overclock my PC years later so that it would last at least 8, maybe even 10 years or more. Would this be a good idea?

The reason for the above decision is that Moore's Law is dead due to heat-related issues, and it seems that even graphics cards are going to be hitting a wall as well c.2025, according to a CEO of one of the big companies involved.So, PCs are going to last much longer than the 4 years the experts usually recommend before switching to a new PC, as improvements slow down to a crawl.
 
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That's always an option. My old gpu msi gtx titan x could teoretically be oc'ed to level of my current gigabyte gtx 1080 ti aorus waterforce extreme, on paper main difference between them are clocks like core old one being at 1075 mhz boost while new one at 1746 mhz.
However if you look closer to the same paper from above you will see that new one has way more cuda cores, higher frame buffer and memory speed on top of entire new memory type...

kanewolf

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I will disagree with your last statement that PCs are going to last much longer than 4 years. Why, because software evolves. New software will expect OS or driver versions that are not available for your old hardware. From release date of Windows 10, back the ten years you would like to keep your PC would be a Windows XP based system. How many games are going to be Windows XP compatible? But, you say "I will upgrade my OS." OK, most devices will be supported, except for that old graphics card which now has to run with a default driver or that old sound card, etc.
I believe 3 to 5 years will continue to be the appropriate age to retire desktops.
 

geoffp0115

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Well, microsoft have enabled, since windows 8, various ways to ensure compatibility with older pc games. Plus, older PC games often get adapted to newer OS's via GoG for example.Plus, as I understood it, microsoft claimed they were never going to upgrade windows 10 to a wholly new OS, just constantly updating it.
 

piechockidocent9

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I sign with kane, my old recently replaced rig from 4-5 years ago is hardware-like completely fine for 1080p ultra quality gaming so I passed it to sis. However heavily oc'ed, compared to my current one is but a shadow and caused me quite a bit of misery when switching to win 10 from 7 because of driver issues (even though win 10 installed most of it and rest were supposedly compatible I had to give up w-fi for instance).
Back to the subject, on ground thinking level I'm not sure buying oc capable rig and not doing it right away is a good idea. For one you always should test it to the max while warranty is on which oc does pretty good, if done reasonably ofc. You might say oc voids warranty, well I had 4 sets of ram sticks that tell you otherwise.
For seconds overclocking makes your pc better true but not so sure if 2 x better which we are talking about when considering pc to last a decade. Maybe for a huge amount of additional cash having liquid nitrogen cooling, delidding all the funny extreme packageand even then I don't know ... Always thought of oc same as sli, 2xgtx 1050 are better then one obviously but not nececary better then one gtx 1060.

 

geoffp0115

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Fair enough, thanks you two. I am surprised that ocing does not void warranty.Perhaps, if I want the PC to last longer without the hassle of constantly replacing parts here and there, I should just overclock the graphics card a lot? Switching to a new graphics card seems less of a bother.
 

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That's always an option. My old gpu msi gtx titan x could teoretically be oc'ed to level of my current gigabyte gtx 1080 ti aorus waterforce extreme, on paper main difference between them are clocks like core old one being at 1075 mhz boost while new one at 1746 mhz.
However if you look closer to the same paper from above you will see that new one has way more cuda cores, higher frame buffer and memory speed on top of entire new memory type gddr5x vs gddr5. We would need someone experience in oc'ing gpus to tell us if that kind of heavy overclock would be even possible and taking all the specs in account could old one really perform close to new one after.
Also in range of possibility is problem with degradation over time and heat. My old gpu runs very hot, nothing I did really works not re-applying new thermal paste/pads, thorough cleaning, rearranging fans you name it, it just wore itself up over the years is the conclusion I come up with. On base boost clock not oc'ed at all, while gaming at 68 degree C with 70% fan speed, new one rarely goes over 65 degrees with only 35 % fan meanwhile running 4k resolution and not just fullhd like old one. Kind of hard for me to think I could possibly overclock it while it reaches these temps on base clocks.
Sorry for taking my own gear as an example so much but that's where I'm most experienced ^^
 
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