Will Z97 motherboard going to get BIOS update for the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerability?

SumTingW0ng · Jan 6, 2018

Will Z97 motherboard going to get BIOS update for the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerability? I have ASUS Maximus Vii Hero Z97.

ko888 · Jan 6, 2018

There is no BIOS microcode update that will fix the Meltdown and/or Spectre vulnerabilities.

Microsoft has already released an out of band update on January 4, 2018 to fix the Meltdown vulnerability.

So far no Spectre vulnerability fix is available yet.

DRagor · Jan 6, 2018

It depends solely on board manufacturer, when/if BIOS update is released, so you should ask Asus directly. Note that you need BIOS update, Intel ME driver update and Windows update all installed to get best available protection from Meltdown. Many new boards already got those BIOS and IME updates.

SumTingW0ng · Jan 6, 2018

DRagor :

I already installed the Jan 3 Windows Update, it just the BIOS that I need it right now. As for Intel ME driver, you meant the Intel Intel-SA-00086 vulnerability?

DRagor · Jan 6, 2018

SumTingW0ng :

The info for the driver does not specify anything besides "Update Intel ME for security vulnerabilities".

ko888 · Jan 6, 2018

DRagor :

SumTingW0ng :

The info for the driver does not specify anything besides "Update Intel ME for security vulnerabilities".

That's the fix for the Intel's Active Management Technology (AMT) security flaw. It doesn't have anything to do with the Meltdown or Spectre vulnerabilities.

SumTingW0ng · Jan 6, 2018

ko888 :

DRagor :

That's the fix for the Intel's Active Management Technology (AMT) security flaw. It doesn't have anything to do with the Meltdown or Spectre vulnerabilities.

I read the news, and they all say a BIOS update and Microsoft Jan 3 update is all you need to solve these two vulnerability.

ko888 · Jan 6, 2018

SumTingW0ng :

It can't be fixed in hardware with a microcode update. A hardware fix would require a complete redesign of the CPU micro-architecture on new silicon.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/cpu-security-flaw-everything-spectre-meltdown,36237.html

SumTingW0ng · Jan 6, 2018

ko888 :

Unfortunately, Intel denied that and stated the firmware update will immune to both.

DRagor · Jan 7, 2018

https://www.techspot.com/article/1554-meltdown-flaw-cpu-performance-windows/

testing a patched desktop system for both Meltdown (OS-level patch) and Spectre (firmware/BIOS update).

Patching Spectre requires BIOS update. But, my bad, the new BIOS versions are not there yet for most motherboards.

SumTingW0ng · Mar 17, 2018

2 months later........no BIOS for my ASUS Maximus VII Hero Z97.

corndog1836 · Mar 26, 2018

From: Jerome Cornish
Sent: 2018-03-17 10:18:31
Subject: BIOS Update

I see that Intel has released a microcode patch fix for Haswell CPUs which would make my Asus Maximus 7 z97 board available for bios update. This microcode update is to mitigate the Spectre variant 2 security vulnerability for Haswell CPUs. Is a ASUS planning on updating the bios for my motherboard?

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Hello Jerome Cornish,

Thank you for your response to ASUS product support, my name is Jhoanna P.

We are very happy to hear from you and appreciate your patronage. From your email, you are asking if ASUS is planning on updating the BIOS for your motherboard. It is our pleasure to answer your questions.

Here is the information you requested:

I just want to let you know our software engineer is currently developing new BIOS update.

Please bear with us and kindly check the website from time to time for the update.

Thank you for your time and patience.

Please let me know if additional assistance is needed. Thank you for choosing ASUS. Your case number is: N180394207.

Have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,
Jhoanna P

ASUS Product Support
http://www.asus.com/us/support/

I received this reply about my z97 formula 7 motherboard a week ago I have been going back and forth with tech support and they appear to be working on it I have additional information if needed but not very much more other than they are aware of it and they're slow to fix it

DRagor · Mar 26, 2018

corndog1836 :

Typical answer 'we will fix it when pigs start to fly'. Hopefully I'm wrong on this.

corndog1836 · Mar 26, 2018

I have been emailing them back and forth since January 7th and this was the current answer. Their previous answers were ambiguous at best. And I cornered them this time because I saw a post about Intel release in the micro code for 4th generation and 5th generation Intel processors

corndog1836 · Mar 26, 2018

I have been emailing them back and forth since January 7th and this was the current answer. Their previous answers were ambiguous at best. And I cornered them this time because I saw a post about Intel release in the micro code for 4th generation and 5th generation Intel processors

corndog1836 · Mar 27, 2018

Hello Jerome Cornish,

Thank you for responding to Asus Product Support, I am Olga O. I apologize that there will be no BIOS update from our higher level of support with your MAXIMUS VII FORMULA. I know how important it is to secure your system. Let me further assist you.

Jerome, I do apologize for the confusion.

But the answer from our higher level of support would be final.

WOW!!!!!!!

DRagor · Mar 27, 2018

Ask her how she can assist you if they can't provide new BIOS

corndog1836 · Mar 27, 2018

I replied that I will post it on all forms that I can on the internet to show how ASUS does not support us

corndog1836 · Mar 27, 2018

Just worried thati i will forever be vulnerable to Spectre 2 Variant

SumTingW0ng · Mar 29, 2018

corndog1836 :

If Intel support Ivy Bridge to Haswell CPU, then ASUS must support as well!

corndog1836 · Mar 29, 2018

Hello Jerome Cornish,

Thank you for responding to Asus Product Support, this is Olga O. again and I apologize if there will be no BIOS update for the Spectre 2 issue with your motherboard. I know how important it is to solve the issue as soon as possible. Let me further assist you.

Upon checking the BIOS version version 3003 that was released from 2015/11/23.

Unfortunately, our software engineers will no longer release any BIOS updates.

If you have any questions or comments, you can simply reply to this email to contact us again. Thank you for choosing ASUS Products and Services.

Please take note of your case number for future reference N1803152533.

Regards,
Olga O.
ASUS Product Support

http://www.asus.com/us/support/

SumTingW0ng · Mar 29, 2018

corndog1836 :

Hello Jerome Cornish,

Thank you for responding to Asus Product Support, this is Olga O. again and I apologize if there will be no BIOS update for the Spectre 2 issue with your motherboard. I know how important it is to solve the issue as soon as possible. Let me further assist you.

Upon checking the BIOS version version 3003 that was released from 2015/11/23.

Unfortunately, our software engineers will no longer release any BIOS updates.

If you have any questions or comments, you can simply reply to this email to contact us again. Thank you for choosing ASUS Products and Services.

Please take note of your case number for future reference N1803152533.

Regards,
Olga O.
ASUS Product Support

http://www.asus.com/us/support/

Why they don't support? Is it outdated? No longer in production?

corndog1836 · Mar 29, 2018

they said end of life

corndog1836 · Mar 29, 2018

Hello Jerome Cornish,

Thank you for contacting ASUS product support. My name is Jhed C. and I am happy to be your new point of contact for this case.

I appreciate you taking the time to update me. We really do apologize but the information that was provided by our software engineers were final and we they have already verified and analyzed that your motherboard don't need and will not have any updates since it is already on EOL status.

Feel free to reach out to me for any other concerns I may be able to address for you. Thank you for choosing ASUS. Your case number is:N1803151699.

Regards,
Jhed C.
ASUS Product Support
http://www.asus.com/us/support/

SumTingW0ng · Mar 29, 2018

corndog1836 :

Ivy Bridge and Haswell are already end of life, but Intel still support it for Spectre and Meltdown vulnerability.

Will Z97 motherboard going to get BIOS update for the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerability?

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