Help me pick a cpu

aquivery.rez · Jan 7, 2018

My PC
Q6600 Oc'ed to 3GHZ
GTX 760
8GB Ram

So i want to upgrade my cpu and i also want that cpu to have a decent upgrade path i was thinking the Pentium G4560 plus an 1151 MOBo and that will set me around $210 in my country and my budget is only $160 so a no go then i come to the R3 1200 Which is 190$ so win win right? Wrong i forgot the Ram and ya know DDR4 is expensive and i cant op for a 4GB so can anyone reccomendme some good cpu's for gaming and recording? (That uses DDR3 xD)

RememberThe5th · Jan 7, 2018

Well you could buy i3-4170 2c/4t(around 50-60$) or i5-4460 4c/4t(around 100-150$) or if you are lucky to find i7 or xeon like Intel Xeon E3-1231V3 4c/8t(yes some h81m supports xeon) and some budget H81M-DGS r2.0 (cheap as 40$ or similar boards just H81M) (USED!).

According to this http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Xeon/E3-1231_v3_motherboards.html
c=cores, t=threads

Rogue Leader · Jan 7, 2018

aquivery.rez :

Your DDR3 requirement kills your "upgrade path". I don't agree with the above post, buying a 4 generation old processor to keep old memory is a huge waste of money.

IMO save up a little extra and get that Ryzen 3 1200 with motherboard and some DDR4 ram. Anything else is a waste.

geofelt · Jan 7, 2018

Your old ddr3 ram has a resale value.
Add that to your $160 and the G4560 is reasonable.
As to the ryzen 1300, it is not as fast as the G4560.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1300X/3892vs3930

Past that, the G4560 motherboard can handle upgrades to i3/i5/i7.
Ryzen upgrades get you more threads, but not higher clock speeds which is what maters most to games.

aquivery.rez · Jan 8, 2018

I agree to both of u guys about the 4560 (4600 is actually $10 cheaper currently) problem is well the ram the ram prices here are expensive new (aswell as the rest of the world) so maybe i should go For that so can anyone reccomend me some good Mobo for the 4560 that works out of the box?

rgd1101 · Jan 8, 2018

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Mark RM · Jan 8, 2018

geofelt :

First you linked userbenchmark, then you said the Ryzen was slower, which in the benchmark you linked it clearly is not.

@OP
If those are your genuine choices then an AM4 platform will allow you to change CPU's for years to come. I am not a fan of Ryzen for high level gaming but for what you're proposing it's preferable.

geofelt · Jan 8, 2018

Mark RM :

Strange, the link I posted said the G4560 was rated at 116 and the ryzen 1300X was at 78.
I agree, something is wrong.
I should have compared to the ryzen 1200.
Here is the link I got for that. 116 vs. 71.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/newresponse/3611839
I think the way they compute the ratios are not accurate.
Perhaps a better comparison is the passmark numbers.
G4600 has a rating of 5145 when all threads are fully utilized and 2056 for a single active thread.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+G4600+%40+3.60GHz
The similarly priced ryzen 1200 has a better total rating of 6782, but a lesser single thread rating of 1727.
The single thread rating is more important for games.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+3+1200

All in all, they are comparable chips.
However when upgrading ryzen, you get more threads, but not significantly faster threads.
For example a 16 thread ryzen 1700 has a rating of 13748/1772.
Great for production, but not much better for gaming.

The lesser priced 6 thread I5-8600K has a rating of 12871/2531.
Much better for gaming.

Mark RM · Jan 8, 2018

I would never, ever buy a dual core CPU for gaming anymore even if that meant I had to buy a nice used i5 or new Ryzen, I would do that.

Anyhow at this level, any quad core is fine paired with intermediate level cards.

When budgets are a concern I've been buying a fair number of i5 3570K/i5 4690K rigs when I see them pop up used at good prices because they still game like SOBs with peoples old RAM. A modest air cooler, some modest OC and off you go. With RAM prices so blasted high, it's a royal pita for gamers at the moment.

geofelt · Jan 8, 2018

G4600 is 4 thread.
Two full cores plus hyperthreading.
The OS sees only threads.

I do not know of any game that needs 4 cores that will not run on a hyperthreaded dual core processor.
One does need to account for the lesser performance of the hyperthreads.

Yes, I agree the 3570K/4790K are still very viable if one wants to buy used.

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