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The CPU part already toggles between 4.1 and 4.3GHz under load so even if he could overclock it would likely not help much.

There's no CPU (or APU) that he can buy that is better for that motherboard. It's already similar to the X4-880K.

Most modern graphics cards are lucky to get a 10% boost with more overclocking.

*Having said that, there are still plenty of games that his computer can run quite well. I had a GTX680 2GB card which would be pretty close to a GTX960 and his CPU while on the lower end relatively is still sufficient to achieve 1080p/60FPS at medium/high in many games.

Games VARY so much though but again lots of great titles that aren't too demanding at settings that still look okay. Especially OLDER games that are...
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You can OVERCLOCK the card which will help games that are not CPU bound.

Even then it might only help by 5% or so. Hard to say.

You can EXPERIMENT. I'd run Unigine Heaven at least twice (2nd time to see if average FPS is nearly identical), write down the average FPS then overclock the card to see if that improves.

(also write down the SETTINGS you use such as anti-aliasing, resolution as they must be identical)

You can simply play around with the OFFSETS etc though I'm not sure I'd use 95degC as the temp limit. It seems a bit high and may wear out the card prematurely (if you don't plan to keep the card more than another year or so I guess it doesn't matter). Personally I'd use 85degC.

Your FAN SPEED shows 100% which could be pretty noisy. You're going to want to also play around with your fan profile.

So again, many games may be CPU bound anyway but I'd overclock based on Unigine Heaven as it should not be.

Other:
When you overclock the card is more unstable. Some games may be fine and some may cause freezing or crashing of the game. For example, I tried about five games (GTX1080) after some further overclocking and only Witcher 3 would freeze. So then backoff the overclock.
 
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It depends on the game, but yes the CPU is relatively weak. There will be GPU bound situations and CPU bound situations so improving either with OC and or replacement of better component will help in the appropriate situation (GPU for GPU bound).

Short of building a new system it's hard to recommend spending money on any hardware though. There's no CPU for his motherboard that's going to make much difference. His CPU part of the APU is pretty much the best that platform offers.

Without spending money my best advice would be to learn how to properly TWEAK GAMES for the best experience. That includes using:

ADAPTIVE VSYNC

(i.e. force that in NCP-> manage 3d settings.. add game-> adaptive vsync-> save)... then tweak so you get 60FPS (60Hz monitor) roughly 90% of the time... when it can't output 60FPS it auto turns off VSYNC to avoid added stutter (so you get screen tearing)

VSYNC OFF in general is useful for high-refresh monitors (i.e. 144Hz)
 
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photonboy:
I will not argue against you on what you sayd but still.
The only reason one person buy an APU is the onboard graphics.

Once you buy an GPU that onboard graphics is out the window and all you are left with is... well to be franky a poor CPU.

Now.. dannysgbb does not say anything about what he is using his computer for. If he did that we could be telling him maybe what is the best way to go about the "problem"
Like you sayd, as an example he wanna play Sim City ( CPU bound game ) and trying to tweak the GPU will not have mutch effect.

And I am just keeping his CPU in mind that there is a limit to what he can tune it to and how well it can perform to any given task since that CPU is what it is.
Unless that is ofc that all he does it watch youtube and browse the internet then the CPU is more than enough.
But he wants to make the GPU faster so I dont think he does :)
 
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The CPU part already toggles between 4.1 and 4.3GHz under load so even if he could overclock it would likely not help much.

There's no CPU (or APU) that he can buy that is better for that motherboard. It's already similar to the X4-880K.

Most modern graphics cards are lucky to get a 10% boost with more overclocking.

*Having said that, there are still plenty of games that his computer can run quite well. I had a GTX680 2GB card which would be pretty close to a GTX960 and his CPU while on the lower end relatively is still sufficient to achieve 1080p/60FPS at medium/high in many games.

Games VARY so much though but again lots of great titles that aren't too demanding at settings that still look okay. Especially OLDER games that are still fun to play.

THIS is an example of CPU scaling though it's a better graphics card:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1128-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-benchmarks/page5.html

He sits above the FX-4320 which means in theory the appropriate combination of medium/?? settings could achieve 60FPS much of the time (again I'd force Adaptive VSYNC then tweak to maintain 60FPS say 90% of the time. On 60Hz monitor.)

Summary:
- not really a "horrible" PC IMO. Lots of fun to be had.

- not much "FPS" or general improvement to be had short of spending money

- best choice IMO is to choose games appropriate to the CPU and GPU, then tweak the settings appropriately

Other:
Some games like Starcraft 2, CIV5 may switch from GPU bound to CPU bound as army size etc ramps up
 
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