Severe case of bottlenecking?

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Hi there,

I'm new to the forums so I wasn't too sure where to place this thread.

Anyway, I have just upgraded from a GTX 970 to a 1070Ti and I was hoping for a performance increase, however I have anything but that. In almost all games that I have tried, my 970 performs better with a clear 10-20fps difference. I have an Intel i5 4460 3.2GHz and 8gb of RAM. I also game at 2560x1080.

I have scoured the internet looking for answers and and before making any concrete decisions about what I should do, I thought I should check here first.

A lot of people who had similar problems said that upgrading to a 1440p or 4K monitor will resolve the bottleneck as the GPU will have more work to do. However another person said that an i5 isn't capable of handling a 1070Ti. I guess what i'm asking is what should I do? Buy a new 1440p monitor or upgrade my CPU?

Many thanks!
 
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Yeah that doesn't make much sense. Increasing your resolution size, if anything should increase the processing power required to run that higher resolution. Including more GPU and CPU usage.

CPU wont lower just because GPU has more to process. That doesn't make sense. It is based on application or game used. Some are more CPU intensive, some are more GPU.

There could be something else at play here causing those types of issues. How is the CPU and GPU overall since the monitor upgrade?
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Assuming you test both cards at same resolution and game settings, 1070ti should have at least same FPS as 970, or better if not CPU bottlenecked in particular game. If you get less FPS (by more then error margin), then either somethings wrong with 1070ti or there is problem with drivers. Try deleting old drivers with DDU and follow with clean drivers install. You may also/instead try different version of drivers.
 
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Your CPU will bottleneck but not that by that much. You are describing a larger then normal bottleneck. Your CPU isn't that terrible. However, upgrading it would help as there is a bottleneck with it.

I would recommend you reinstall the 1070 and use DDU to properly uninstall all drivers and reinstall only the most current. Also please list your full system specs. Issue would be that there isnt enough power draw from the PSU etc... causing your issues, but we wouldn't know because we dont know your specs : /
 
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Just tried this on BF1, Ghost Recon Wildlands and Witcher 3, CPU is hovering around 80-100% while GPU sits around 60-70.
 
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I would check drivers first before saying what's at fault. Remember to make clean install od GPU driver when changing card and run task manager in background to see if CPU stays 100% for longer periods of time. Also if its cpu bound bottleneck, you should see similar performance, not lower.
to bench if its cpu find AA settings and set it max/mid/low there.
http://www.tested.com/tech/pcs/1194-how-to-choose-the-right-anti-aliasing-mode-for-your-gpu/
you should see MAJOR FPS changes and until CPU bottlenecks your GPU it will stay 100% usage.
 
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First off the person that said the i5 can't support a 1070Ti is just plain wrong.

It looks like a driver issue. I'd enable all the resources I can and see where there might be an issue. Let's say I thought the RAM or the VRAM was my issue but it could also be temps. or loads. I enable monitoring in MSI AB and check off and Enable in OSD each of those resources. That would result in me seeing MSI's hud where I want it in the game.
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I have 8GB RAM so that's not an issue. I have 4GB of VRAM so that isn't an issue either.


Long story short. I'd look into it with MSI AB. You might also use HwInfo while you game and see if anything looks odd in there after your session. the 1070 Ti is a major upgrade. Something is seriously wrong. Have you tried calling the manufacturer? Tech. support is there for you.
 
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I used DDU when I first installed my 1070 so i'm not sure if that would be the problem... My full specs are:

Intel i5 4460
Gtx 1070Ti
8gb DDR3 1866Mhz
Corsair CX600
ASUS H81M-PLUS
2 x 1Tb HDD 7200rpm

 
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liamwright9

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My GPU stays at around 90% usage

 
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My temps seem normal; 56C with CPU and around 70-75C with GPU (It's a Founder's Edition so no surprise with the temps there)

 
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No unfortunately not... i've decided to get a 3440x1440 monitor to make the gpu do some more work as I found that when I increase the resolution, my CPU goes from 100% down to around 60-70%.

 
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Yeah that doesn't make much sense. Increasing your resolution size, if anything should increase the processing power required to run that higher resolution. Including more GPU and CPU usage.

CPU wont lower just because GPU has more to process. That doesn't make sense. It is based on application or game used. Some are more CPU intensive, some are more GPU.

There could be something else at play here causing those types of issues. How is the CPU and GPU overall since the monitor upgrade?
 
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