Can you check/recommend parts for my new PC?

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Hey, I have been trying to gather together a list of parts for a new gaming/work PC. I'd love to hear your guys' input on my current list. Advice on whether some parts don't work together or recommendations for better parts within my budget would be greatly appreciated!

By the way, I don't really know what to look for in motherboards or memory, so I just went off reviews and looks (lol). I do plan to modestly overclock.

What is your intended use for this build?

Occasional gaming / Heavy Multitasking / Work

If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)

Mostly 1080p@60 or even 4k@30.

What is your budget?

$850 W/O GPU, $1150 W/GPU

In what country are you purchasing your parts?

United States

Provide any additional details you wish below.

The budget of this PC is at or below $850 excluding an SSD and GPU. I will be transferring my current SSD into this PC to save a couple hundred. I want to buy the graphics card later when there are more games I want to play. I might stick in a GTX 1060 for $300 if they come back in stock from nvidia.
 
For light gaming and heavy multitasking, the Ryzen processors would be more suitable for you. The extra logical cores of the 1600 will let you multitask much more smoothly while giving you solid gaming performance when you do want to game...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 750 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F120MP 53.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $669.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-15 15:38 EST-0500

Added a better PSU.
 

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what are the benefits between intel coffee lake and ryzen? you stated that ryzen is more suitable for gaming and multitasking; where does that leave coffee lake? from research I thought the 8600k would have been well worth it for gaming especially. or do you mean I'll be wasting my money on something I won't likely need.
 
CoffeeLake is the best for gaming atm, but the 1600 is not far behind. For multitasking and non-gaming workload, the 1600 still outshines the 8600k due to its extra cores and linear scaling across the cores and threads.
If you are building gaming specific rig, then the 8600k is more worthy. But when there is an adequate amount of non-gaming workload involved, the 1600 gives you the right balance across both the workload. 1600 is a pretty good gamer too not too far behind the CoffeLake range.
Check out the multicore performance in this comparison... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3941vs3919
 

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coffee lake is superior in both sectors, the gap widens even more once overclocked as ryzen has poor overhead

even a locked i5 8400 is going to be all around better


if you can go i5 8600k, or i7 8700k setup there is no point to ryzen
 

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You have to consider things other than the CPU itself. Right now only Z370 motherboards are available which are quite expensive and not to mention the current stock issues with Coffee Lake. Also i5 8400 loses in multi threaded performance, so I don't know what you mean by "superior in both sectors". Not to mention Ryzen comes with good stock coolers whereas K series CPUs need a $20 cooler. I'm not trying to be an AMD fanboy, I personally own a i5 7600K in my gaming rig, and that was a mistake. I thought, "well it's better for gaming which is the only thing I'll be doing so it must be better". Well it's BARELY better for gaming. I just don't want more people to make the mistake of making a decision based on the small advantage in a sector they care about verses a huge advantage in something they will soon need with optimization of 6-core CPUs coming soon. All in all, I think Ryzen 5 1600 is the best overall, and that's worth your money. Also if you have some patience the next generation of Ryzen is rolling out in spring and they will have much better clock speeds and overclock ability.
 

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So the i5 8600k has superior performance in gaming but slightly weaker multi core capabilities than the ryzen's in a lower price range. I feel like I'll just throw my money at the 8600k. My budget already allows for it. I don't think the shortcomings of the coffee lake is enough to scare me off; when I play a game I went the best experience possible.
 

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I wouldn't say superior gaming performance, I would say a 5 fps difference. Also be careful because you're honestly thinking exactly like me when I make my purchase decision.
 

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anyway, any other components I could be recommended? I guessed on the ram, psu, mobo. I know liquid cooling is a bit overkill but I'm tired of bulky heatsinks.
 

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this is incorrect, the i5 8400 soundly beats a 4ghz 1600 in gaming by a considerable margin

the gap is that much higher with a 8600k or 8700k

its not close at all
 

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The list from Hellfire is good. And I wish you hadn’t said you hate bulky heat sinks because the Ryzen comes with a good stock cooler that’s small unlike the 8600K. Here’s an AIO if you’re interested though: https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA2F832J6708?nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker%2c+LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566
I believe there are good cheaper options from Cooler Master but I don’t know exactly how reliable they are (you ARE, after all, dealing with water next to expensive hardware)
 

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z370 mobos are not expensive at all in the us, there are plenty in the ~$100 range

he is getting a 8600k not an i5 8400, once overclocked it will easily win in either scenario

the 7600k is very much superior to a 1600 in gaming, its not close when you overclock

 

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The buyer has made his/her decision. But just out of curiosity, have you actually owned those CPUs? I’ve built systems with both 1600s and 7600Ks (not 8600Ks yet) but they are very much similar in gaming performance.
 

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if all you are building are 60hz setups I can see how you would say they are similar

in online games, any kind of cpu bound scenarios, or high refresh rate gaming though for example, the difference is quite wide

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GTA V is optimized for Intel so if that's the only game you're playing then 8600K is the right choice. Also the 1600X is basically the same thing as 1600 fyi.
 

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I don't know which games the buyer is going to play and also he/she is building a 60Hz system so
 

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I don't really know why we're arguing over this. I'm not saying the 8600K is a terrible choice. It comes down to personal preference. If you could tell me the games you're playing then you can make a decision based on that. If you're willing to spend extra money on the AIO then that's fine too. I'm not telling you which side to take, I'm trying to help. That's all.
 

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gta5 is cpu bound

its just the fact that intel has higher IPC that gives it such a lead in this game, it also helps that intel cpu's can overclock much higher as well

this is a "perfect storm" in favor of intel cpu's

you can get a similar "perfect storm" scenario for amd cpu's in a game like BF4

 

yngse

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you stated that there is only a "5 fps" gap between the processors. just wanted to clarify that there is in fact a performance boost equivalent to what I was seeing on userbenchmarks.com. I just don't want to doubt my choice for the future. not trying to come off as hostile; im sorry if it seemed so. we're all enthusiasts here.

beyond the processor, are there any other recommendations? I'm starting to feel pretty sure about my selection now.
 

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What cooler are you going with. That piece of silicon ain't gonna cool itself off.
 

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