Unavailability of Graphics Cards - ANYWHERE

ellford

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So the miners are really ruining the whole GPU market for PC's right now. I'm trying to put a system together for my daughter and have everything now but the GPU (thanks to the online supplier of not shipping it when they said they did).

Initially the miners used the Radeon cards for mining, but now they're using Nvidia as well, as Radeon can't keep up with the demand.

Has anyone heard anything out there on when higher end cards "might" become available again for either manufacturer?
 

JoeMomma

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Craigslist and ebay are probably going to be the best option for a while.
It worked for me.

The situation may get better soon, now that cryptocurrency is crashing and miners will start dumping their extra GPU's.
 

ellford

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Yeah only issue with that is that you don't really want a GPU that's been previously used for mining as it's been running at 100%, 24x7, for XX days... It's like Russian roulette with a GPU...

I just wish Nvidia and Radeon would increase production of the cards.

I did notice that there's stores that ARE carrying cards, but are not allowing online orders of them - they're only accepting in-person purchases for them (why? maybe to make sure it's going to a person and not a miner?)

Very frustrating, that's for sure.
 

JoeMomma

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People worry too much about myths.
Don't worry, Game happy.

I bought my first GPU in 1995. I have never had a GPU die on me before I upgraded.
I know miners that have sold their old cards. I have sold my old PC's and components.
No one ever complained because one died.

PC components usually go obsolete before they die.
I understand used anything is a risk. If you want new for piece of mind, no problem.
After I sold my GTX970, my GTX1070 cost me $140.
craigslist is a risk that I am willing to take.

Increasing production is not in the GPU maker's best interest.
They make more money when supply is short.
To increase production they would have to invest in more manufacturing capability.
Spending money, resulting in less capital so they can reduce profits?
No company would ever do that.

 


that can be a gamble for GPU maker. the mining situation is not a something that i'd say as "stable". the value is constantly up and down from time to time. they can increase the production but it will took sometime before they can push them out. what happen if the mining bubble crash and miner suddenly put their old card on sale? this happen once with AMD back in 2013-2014 period with Bitcoin.

also nvidia might push for new generation GPU by mid this year. it is about time nvidia start EOLing some of their pascal chip production. if nvidia really releasing gaming voltas next quarter then increasing pascal based GPU is unwise decision for them. they would rather selling their GPU at inflated price (by retailer) than have to do official price cut to move existing inventory.

and finally there are talks about memory shortage. some people that much closer to the channel said some GPU manufacturer (nvidia partner specifically) still have good supply of GPU but right now they simply don't have the memory to complete the whole package.
 
Increasing production is not in the GPU maker's best interest.
They make more money when supply is short.

no they're not. they only make more money if they can sell more unit. short supply = less money to be made. the inflated price does not benefit GPU maker at all. anything extra above official retail price goes to retailer pocket. only.

To increase production they would have to invest in more manufacturing capability.
Spending money, resulting in less capital so they can reduce profits?

actually this is more of fab issue than GPU maker issue. both AMD and nvidia is fabless. if they want to increase their production they can ask more capacity from the fab. nvidia for example is one of TSMC major customer. back in 2012 nvidia complaining about supply issue with the new 28nm process a few weeks later TSMC giving nvidia some fab capacity that is meant for AMD (GPU) and Qualcomm (SoC) to satisfy nvidia demand.