CPU or GPU upgrade?

beinik6

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Hello,

so I got some money left and I wanna spend it on either Upgrading my CPU or GPU.
I can only upgrade one of them!

My current CPU/GPU:
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600x
GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Zotac AMP

What I would upgrade to:
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700 or 1800x
GPU: Asus Strix 1070 (may oc)

So what of both should I consider upgrading "first" (dont know if I will upgrade the second thing any soon then)

Any help would be great :)
 

beinik6

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I know they are. But at least somehow, I can still not play some games "lagg free". Okey, we all know PUBG has a shit performance, but still, others can play it smoothely with lower rigs.. pissing me off. Also CS:GO has some stutter in it. Fortnite is "okey" just rarely stuttering for a millisecond. I dont know why they are stuttering.. thats why I thought maybe upgrading one of those will help.
 

beinik6

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Same as I answered the one above.
 

beinik6

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Normal 60hz 1080p
 

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GTX 1070. There is not much to gain from the upgrade from the r5 1600x, and that beefy CPU won't have a GPU to back it up. The GTX 1070 is also one of the best GPU for an r5 build (price to performance wise).
 
You will likely not be satisfied with a single step upgrade for either the cpu or the graphics card.
With ryzen, you will go from a 1600X with 12 threads and a overclock of perhaps 3.8 to a 1800X with 16 threads and an overclock of perhaps 3.9
For games, extra threads past 4 or so are not usually helpful.
You can test this out with YOUR games.
Experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.

The graphics upgrade is more promising.
But a 2 tier jump from a GTX1060 to a GTX1070 may not be enough to be really noticed.
Tom's gpu hierarchy chart recommends three tiers; that is to a GTX1080 class card.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

If you find that single core speed is what you need, then you have to look at a i5-8600K or a I7-8700K with an overclock near 5.0.

FWIW;
If you have not yet done so, buy a SSD
 
As you are using Ryzen. Have you updated the BIOS on your motherboard? Have you installed the latest AMD chipset drivers? Are you using the AMD power profile? Those smooth out a lot of gaming issues.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows+10+-+64
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/26/new-amd-ryzen-chipset-drivers-now-available

Also, have you downloaded and installed the latest drivers for your GPU from nVidia?
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/129081
 

beinik6

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I will stay with Ryzen, im not a fan of intel sorry.

I know that games usually dont take more then 4 threads, but in the Future they probably will.
I actually have overclocked my CPU to 3,95 Ghz.
I mean, I dont think that the performance wont be much better when getting the 1070, its still a more powerfull card.
I have a SSD, but only for Windows and certain programms, games are stored on an 1 TB HDD (new bought).
 

beinik6

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Well, i thought windows is installing those chipset drivers by default? Otherwise it would not even work, dont it? I will try installing the drivers from AMD and try using their power profile.
Im not on the latest BIOS version of my MOBO, but the changelogs just say that the new version is prepared for NEWER cpus, so not mine anymore, no fixes or anything else.

I have the latest GPU drivers. Also, what I still dont know, because everyone has a split mind about that.. Do I really need Geforce Experience? Or just delete it? I dont use shadowplay or smth like that, so probably I wont need it.
 


Whatever the problem is. Your hardware is plenty for those games. You need to track down the problem. My guess is a faster GPU or Ryzen 7 won't help any.

You can install MSI afterburner and turn on onscreen overlay. To see if you are even hitting 100% CPU or GPU usage.
https://www.msi.com/blog/setting-up-osd-with-msi-afterburner

If you aren't using V-Sync. You may as well turn it on. Anything over the framerate of your monitor is just wasted electricity. Going over only detracts from the gaming experience via tearing. V-Sync can sometimes help sometimes with stuttering too. As for PUBG. Have you tried messing with the pre rendered frame setting?

At the very least. Since your current hardware is quite good. I'd at least wait for the GeForce 2000 series and second generation AMD Ryzen. They are both expected in the next couple months.
 

beinik6

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Well, my GPU is at a 100%, or 99% how task manager wants to show me, while I play Fortnite.
I probably will wait for the new generations to come, yes.
V-Sync, well good, never tought that I would use it, still not sure if i will use it, maybe if it helps.
Pre rendered frame setting? Never saw that, where is that xD?