Cpu cooling advise

Mursalin

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I currently have an amd ryzen 1700x with a wraith spire cooler from
My previous cpu ryzen 1600, at 3.6ghz im getting around 68c on the stress test, i thought about getting a corsair h75 as my friend would be willing to give it to me flr cheap , or do you think its not worth it? I do not intend to buy any noctua coolers as there are above my price range? Or is the cooler master 212x better for the value? I never used liquid cooling before and i heard in rare cases it can leak and damage the whole system ,would like to hear other peoples opinions on this , thanks alot
 
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They can, and do leak. Not often, but often enough that I've heard two verified cases, even with pretty high end AIO closed loop coolers, in just the last few weeks here on Tom's. One was on a moderators system. The other was on another members system. I avoid water cooling.

While it works great for a lot of people, I'm a fan of following the first rule of electronics that says to keep water and electronics as far apart as possible. If the price is right and it's not too old though, maybe it's an option. The older those get, the more likely they are to either leak or have pump failures though. Plus, they are noisier than air cooling.

Since you have a limited budget, this is the cooler I would suggest, and it beats the 212 EVO and X...
They can, and do leak. Not often, but often enough that I've heard two verified cases, even with pretty high end AIO closed loop coolers, in just the last few weeks here on Tom's. One was on a moderators system. The other was on another members system. I avoid water cooling.

While it works great for a lot of people, I'm a fan of following the first rule of electronics that says to keep water and electronics as far apart as possible. If the price is right and it's not too old though, maybe it's an option. The older those get, the more likely they are to either leak or have pump failures though. Plus, they are noisier than air cooling.

Since you have a limited budget, this is the cooler I would suggest, and it beats the 212 EVO and X coolers pretty handily. Actually, either of these two coolers are excellent budget choices.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($23.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $23.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $34.89
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Personally, I know the Cryorig is a better quality unit and performs a bit better than the Gammaxx, but the Gammaxx performs better than the 212 and is less expensive than the Cryorig. The Cryorig H7 is also noticeably quieter than the Gammaxx 400 that gets most of it's performance through sheer fan speed. Both would be an improvement over the Wraith cooler though and be a lot quieter I suspect.
 
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rubix_1011

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I, on the other hand, am a huge advocate for watercooling. However, 'watercooling' and 'closed loop liquid coolers' are not the same price, performance or quality, so they are not a 1:1 comparison.

There are some good AIO/closed loop coolers. There are also some not-very-good ones.

There are some good performing air coolers between $40-$60 US dollars. Going above that price, there are many air coolers that outperform liquid coolers in the same price range.

If you are planning to spend less than $100 US dollars, I would suggest just getting a good or great air cooler and skip the closed loop coolers unless you get a good cooler at 'fell off the back of a truck' pricing.

 
^^^^Agree. Closed loop and Open loop, totally not comparable, which is why I generally don't reference open loop systems when I badmouth AIO coolers in general. Unfortunately I can't say I agree totally on the "good" ones vs the "bad" ones, as the one BignastyID had fail WAS a high end closed loop as you know, and the other one that failed recently and took a few things out with it was an Swiftech unit while BNID's was I'm pretty sure an EK. Both I assume would fall under the "good" AIO category compared to some of the less trustworthy units out there.

I'm all for open loop cooling if somebody is going to put in the necessary time to LEARN how to do it right and invest in high quality parts. For most people though, especially under a hundred bucks, I think I have to recommend air every time except maybe in cases where an AIO is absolutely mandatory for the aesthetic. That's just me, and I fully respect your preference for water, as you know.
 

rubix_1011

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Most AIOs don't leak. Same goes for most custom watercooling, if it's done correctly.

There are times when manufacturing process lends things to slip through the proverbial cracks...in this case, coolant.

Poor performance is one thing, leaking is another altogether. However, you really want to avoid both.