what should i upgrade first

xlgame1

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hello i wanted to ask what should i upgrade in the future ? here's my pc specs

CPU : ryzen 5 1400 @ 3.6 GHz

RAM : Corsair vengeance Lpx 8GB DDR4 2400

MOTHERBOARD : MSI B350m Gaming Pro

GPU : Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB

SYSTEM : Windows 10 Home 64 Bit

HARD DRIVE : WD Blue 7200 rpm 1tb

just wanted to mention that the prices in my country are not affected that much by the whole mining craze so any suggested upgrades are welcomed :)

 
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I would suggest a SSD (850 EVO 250gb or MX300 275gb) and then a GPU upgrade when needed, as long as your PSU is decent. Then eventually upgrading to 16gb and then by 2020 if your CPU needs to be upgraded then using your current motherboard, seeing as AMD is using the AM4 until 2020.

xlgame1

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wich card would you recommand ?

 

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I would suggest a SSD (850 EVO 250gb or MX300 275gb) and then a GPU upgrade when needed, as long as your PSU is decent. Then eventually upgrading to 16gb and then by 2020 if your CPU needs to be upgraded then using your current motherboard, seeing as AMD is using the AM4 until 2020.
 
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that's actually almost perfect plan, maybe ram first is is better, that depends on how you use it.
I would just update with MX500/ maybe m.2 drive depending on $.
 

xlgame1

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what gpu would you recommand ?
 

WildCard999

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Depends on what's available and what your PSU can handle. If you gaming at 1080P the GTX 1060 6gb or RX 580 4/8gb would be fine, any higher of a resolution and you'll want to consider a better card. Another possible upgrade if the games you play support it (21:9) is going with a ultra widescreen such as 2560x1080P, I recently bought a 29" LG and love it, plus the cheaper monitors support AMD Freesync.
 

xlgame1

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my psu is a corsair vs 450 w (not a cs)
and i'am thinking about switching to a wide screen but i thought it would be better if i buy one after i upgrade the gpu
and thanks for your awesome suggustions .
 

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The CS PSU's aren't very good, I would actually consider upgrading to a Corsair CXM 550W before the GPU upgrade so you don't end up damaging the card or any other parts. As is the RX 460 is a pretty low power draw so it's ok but once you start getting into more powerful GPU's you'll want something better.

If you look at a ultrawide monitor look at 29" or larger, the 25" versions are too small horizontally IMO and a 75hz Freesync version would be perfect for a RX 570/580. You will want to do a bit of research online to make sure the games you play the most support it, out of about 20 games I tested I only found two that don't support it and have black bars on each side. One was South Park: Stick of Truth and I forgot the other one but it was one I rarely played so whatever.
 
I suggest you buy your new monitor first.
Then you will have a better idea of exactly what upgrade you need.

Assuming your need is for gaming, here is my stock approach:

Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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xlgame1

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sorry it isn't a cs its a (vs450 psu )