Weird GT710 compatibility issue with an old motherboard

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This is more of a puzzle than an actual problem. I know this tech is too old and I will probably just get a different card or something.


In short:
MSI GT 710 2GD3H LP (GPU#1) when connected to Foxconn K8M890M2MB-RS2H (MB#1) - there's no signal going through HDMI or VGA, but the MB works. Yet the on-board VGA shows BIOS, at least.
BUT:
- Palit GTS 450 (GPU#2) works on MB#1 absolutely fine and was used for years.
- GPU#1 works fine on Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 (MB#2).
- GPU#2 works on MB#2 too.

Questions:
So clearly nothing is broken, but there's some sort of difference between GPU#1 and GPU#2 - MB#1 and MB#2. To the point that everything works except GPU#1 on MB#1.
1) What are those differences?
2) Does GPU#1 require UEFI?
3) Does MB#2 support UEFI somehow?
4) Does MB#1 support only legacy BIOS?
More importantly:
5) Will GigaByte GT 1030 work on MB#2? Yes, this is how I plan to solve this.

Clues:
- This is not a PCIe version issue. Both GPU's are 2.0 and one of them works on the poor MB#1.
- Could this be a Memory Size issue? GPU#1 has twice more.
- UEFI BIOS? https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Nvidia-GT-710-card-not-working-with-Pavilion-P7-1226/td-p/5644965

Tech used:
GPU#1: MSI GT 710 2GD3H LP https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GT-710-2GD3H-LP/Specification
GPU#2: Palit GTS 450 http://www.palit.com/palit/vgapro.php?id=1373&lang=en&pn=NE5S4500HD01-1063F&tab=sp
MB#1: Foxconn K8M890M2MB http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000306
MB#2: Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-M61PME-S2-rev-2x#sp
 
Solution
jr9
- PCIe versions don't matter, all are backwards compatible. Same goes for VRAM shouldn't have any impact on POST.

- nVIDIA below or at 600 series do not need UEFI but 700, 900, and 1000 series do to a certain extent. You can still get Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 era processors to take 10 series cards DEPENDING on the motherboard primarily. Motherboards like pre 2012 motherboards salvaged from certain OEMs (HP for one especially) will generally refuse to boot with anything at or above 700 series due to it not being able to accept the larger vbios of the card.

- http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5169369 here is a benchmark of the Gigabyte board working with an nvIDIA 1030 GT. No luck finding a Foxxcon benchmark on that board, I think...
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- PCIe versions don't matter, all are backwards compatible. Same goes for VRAM shouldn't have any impact on POST.

- nVIDIA below or at 600 series do not need UEFI but 700, 900, and 1000 series do to a certain extent. You can still get Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 era processors to take 10 series cards DEPENDING on the motherboard primarily. Motherboards like pre 2012 motherboards salvaged from certain OEMs (HP for one especially) will generally refuse to boot with anything at or above 700 series due to it not being able to accept the larger vbios of the card.

- http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5169369 here is a benchmark of the Gigabyte board working with an nvIDIA 1030 GT. No luck finding a Foxxcon benchmark on that board, I think it's OEM possibly. If you knew which PC it came from could look it up on that site.

1. 450GTS doesn't need UEFI and the 710 may not work on a board that doesn't have it or support for 64K vbios.

2. 700 series and up do, but depends on the motherboard. I stress it isn't as cut and dry as "no uefi = it will never work"

3. It likely doesn't being Athon era but as it's a nicer Gigabyte rather than a generic Foxxcon board it could support the vbios of the 710. Basic motherboards you see in HP boxes and Dell boxes have a low success rate for crossing the "nVidia 700 series" barrier if the PC is from 2010-2012. The OEM didn't intend for you to ever do it.

4. Probably if it won't accept even a 710.

edit: BIOS update might help you get the Foxxcon board to accept the 710 if you didn't try already.
 
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Ok so you are tying to get a Gt 710 working on a Foxconn K8M890M2MB-RS2H right but it will not post with the card right? I had similar issues with a board, It was a msi socket 775 but it had a ati express 200 chip set, and I tried to get a hd 5450 to work but it would not post on that board but will post on an older 775 board and will boot up fine, the reason why it will not post is because certain older boards will only support certain amount of gpus due to chip set limitations I think. If you go to foxconn website for this board under here http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000306 these are the only supported gpu. The reason why it works on the Gigabyte board because the nvidia 6100 chip set doesn't have any limitations and is pretty new vs the via chip set, If you look there is no vga support list only drivers for the on board igp.

And for the GT 1030 It should work on the Gigabyte board just make sure you use a good power supply with good wattage.
 
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wow this is interesting
i used userbenchmark.com alot but i didnt think of searching for the rig that im interested in, good to know

got GT1030, placed GTS450 on the foxconn mb and did done with that.
too bad it costed more money, oh well.

thanks for the help, jr9 and Pentium4User
 
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