Ryzen 5 1600x High temps on MSI X370 Pro gaming

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Hi All,

First here are my specs:

-Ryzen 5 1600x 3.6ghz
-16 gb dual channel vengeance (8x8)1
-MSI X370 Pro Gaming Carbon
-Hyper Evo 212 Red LED
-2 TB Hard-drive
-Aorus GTX 1060 Xtreme Gaming 6gb
-PSU 550 Corsair
-Spec 04 Casing

So recently I came across a problem where my pc wouldn't start and I posted this on quite a few forums etc got a similar feedback on checking or changing the PSU which did not help, since my PC was in warranty the store guys where I got it from told me to replace the motherboard from Asus Prime X370 Prime to MSI X370 Pro Gaming Carbon.

Now the problem is resolved but I am getting quite different temps which in the previous board was not an issue, everything on my system is on stock speeds. Also I am using the same cooler as before but on AIDA 64 these temperatures are quite concerning for me.

Luckily I did a stress test on my previous built so I am attaching a screenshot of it and also attaching a screenshot of just readings of the current built.

Let me know what you guys think, I've already got the thermal gel reapplied but got no luck.

Should I look into investing a better cooler, keep in mind that this is the same cooler from which I got no issues previously.

Has my cpu malfunctioned? should I try to reseat the cooler though it was handled by the tech guys yesterday.

Old
https://imgur.com/a/i9ZVp

New
https://imgur.com/a/gZdGy

 
Solution
presumably your voltage settings are on auto, if you haven't overclocked.? If so, go into the bios, and change the voltage from auto to lets say 1.35 (just to start with). See if the system is stable, by running prime95 or whatever, and see where the temps are with the lower voltage. On auto, the mobo will over volt to make sure the CPU has enough juice at differing loads. By setting it manually it should reduce the heat a little. I can see from your screenshots that it's hitting above 1.4+ during use, so setting it manually will keep the max voltage down a little.

Also the fan failing won't help. When you say top fan, you mean on the chassis as opposed to the CPU fan, right?


Mine is set at 1.3v @3.9ghz. Idle temps about 28-33...

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Hi Long_T123,
Thank you for replying okhay so I will try to reseat the cooler myself, as for the thermal gel I got it reapplied after cleaning the old one yesterday from the store.

Just another thought if I reseat the cooler and still god forbid dont see any improvements what should I do any suggestions.
 

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I forgot to mention that some ryzen motherboards have a 20 degree offset
It usually happens with the x cpus because amd sometimes makes dumb decisions which can be fixed with a bios update probably
 
Update your bios, it looks as if that 20c offset is still in play. Try using HWmon/HwInfo for monitoring, as they take account of the offset. I don't use aida as it's a trial version, and the HWmon/HwINfo are better in my opinion, and give a much better overall picture of where you are, what temps you have etc

Don't go re-applying thermal paste or getting a better cooler just yet. Rule out the simple things first then work from then.

 

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Hi,

Just to update you guys I did re apply the thermal grease and adjusted everything myself for good, I've attached a screenshot of how much paste those idiots have put on the CPU.

https://imgur.com/a/IdzVe

Forgot to take a snap of the processor it was actually drowning in thermal grease it had grease even on its sides :'( After cleaning that mess I applied half an inch straight line on the processor. Re assembled everything.

I don't think I got much luck with the idle temps will check more later today but I did get improvements on stress test which I ran about 30 minutes it peaked and stayed between 74 - 75 Celsius before this I was getting to 81 to 87 in 5 minutes, will post the test results once I am home from work.

I'll check if MSI has a Bios update on their website cause I dont have any clue on those offsets but will surely monitor on the mentioned software and update today.

Thanks alot guys.
 
presumably your voltage settings are on auto, if you haven't overclocked.? If so, go into the bios, and change the voltage from auto to lets say 1.35 (just to start with). See if the system is stable, by running prime95 or whatever, and see where the temps are with the lower voltage. On auto, the mobo will over volt to make sure the CPU has enough juice at differing loads. By setting it manually it should reduce the heat a little. I can see from your screenshots that it's hitting above 1.4+ during use, so setting it manually will keep the max voltage down a little.

Also the fan failing won't help. When you say top fan, you mean on the chassis as opposed to the CPU fan, right?


Mine is set at 1.3v @3.9ghz. Idle temps about 28-33, gaming load 45-65, and Prime Stressing about 73-77.
 
Solution


To be honest, that board is pretty decent. An one of the better OC'ers as far as I can tell.

Try changing the voltage from auto to 1.3-1.35 get it stable, and your temps will come down another bit. Your idle temps are higher than normal, but you just have to change some settings to get the heat and voltage down. Obviously replace whichever fan is not working right.

I've a Wraith Max RGB cooler. It's on a par with the 212 for cooling, so you should be able to get the temps lower. You could also look at increasing the fan curve, so the fan goes to higher rpm's when the temp gets to a certain level. You can do that through the bios too.
 

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Okay sir I am just adjusting the fan cables why do you think its failing....after the fan starts I'll adjust the voltages like you said....I tried fiddling with the curves from auto to manual it didnt help ...sadly lets see once they starts
 
well, if your fan is stopping spinning for no apparent reason, Its likely it could be on the way out. Given it's set up as an exhaust fan it should be spinning all the time, even just at low rpm to keep venting the heat inside the case. Otherwise your case temps will go up, as will the temps on your hardware if the fan fails.
 

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Hey All just to update you all Ive found an auto Core Perfornace Boost feature in the Bios and has diaabled it, which has stablized the voltages and temps...also I am take the cooler back to store causw that one is still twitching and not spinning.

Here is a screenshot
https://i.imgur.com/9eUjO5p.jpg

Will update thanks All
 

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So I got my fan replaced in warranty its working fine now also since the Core Performance Boost has been turned off my system has stabilized and the temps aren't spiking to higher values on idle it stays at 50 to 52 which still seems higher also when I stressed tested it went to 77 Celsius in 10 minutes before changing the board with the same fan config on Asus Prime X370 my system use to stay at 68 Celsius max on stress test for 40 minutes, do you think since I've only applied half inch line in the center of the cpu is causing this.

Should I invest in a liquid cooler or check any better thermal grease options?
Or reapply thermal grease on the entire surface of cpu
Or put in more fans in the casing

Here are some screenshots:
https://ibb.co/jVbtrw
https://ibb.co/nKamBw
https://ibb.co/kmZPyb
https://ibb.co/iFk8PG
https://ibb.co/gDqKWw
https://ibb.co/cbqxJb
 

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Guys finally the odd temps issue has been resolved and I feel like such a fool, you guys were right on 20 deg Offset and AIDA has been fooling me all along I've just downloaded the latest AIDA64 and my temps are actually cooler than ever between (32 Celsius idle)

Here is a screenshot
https://imgur.com/a/6rMsj

Will do a stress test now once more, thank you both Long__T123 & keith12 you both were right on the 20 deg Offset.
 


great. result :)