Upgrade to my PC to increase gaming FPS (For WoW Mainly)

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Hi,

I'm looking to upgrade my PC for mainly gaming, my main game is World of warcraft which i dont usually have too much of a problem and can run around 60fps when questing, standard stuff, with however in some raids dungeons (mainly mythic/mythic+) i see alot of FPS drop and recently on mythic Antoran High Command, have seen a drop to around 15-30fps which makes it difficult to play (with every setting set to lowest).

I'm looking for some ideas as to what may be best for me to upgrade at this point on a budget of say £200.

I've been suggested that upgrading my HD to an SSD will show a big improvement to my PC however i don't know if this would help me during gaming as much. From running a benchmark though it seems to show my GPU and HD are slowing me down overall.

Here are my specs:

OS: Windows 7 Professional
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500
GPU: AMD R7 370
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 500GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 C13 2x8GB
MBD: Asrock B150M-HDS

Benchmark: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/6997236

Looking to see if anyone has any recommendations to help with FPS in WoW specifically, as it would be nice to play it smoothly and to bump up the gfx during raids would be nice too.

Thanks for reading.
 
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A quick search turned up a nice, relatively up to date performance guide for World of Warcraft, which discusses both the affects of hardware and visual settings on the game's performance...

http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/wow

Included toward the end are suggestions on how to best optimize the settings to keep the game looking good while getting the most performance out of your hardware.

A graphics card upgrade could probably help a lot, although it should be pointed out that due to cryptocurrency mining, the prices of all mid-range to high-end graphics cards have skyrocketed over the last month or so. Even the GTX 1060 3GB has more than doubled in price at online retailers, and what should be a USD $200 graphics card is...
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Would upgrading to an SSD improve fps during gameplay (with wow specifically) at all, or do you think its my gpu slowing me down here?
 
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SSD will not improve FPS, it will decrease load times however which is nice in a game like WoW.
 
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A quick search turned up a nice, relatively up to date performance guide for World of Warcraft, which discusses both the affects of hardware and visual settings on the game's performance...

http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/wow

Included toward the end are suggestions on how to best optimize the settings to keep the game looking good while getting the most performance out of your hardware.

A graphics card upgrade could probably help a lot, although it should be pointed out that due to cryptocurrency mining, the prices of all mid-range to high-end graphics cards have skyrocketed over the last month or so. Even the GTX 1060 3GB has more than doubled in price at online retailers, and what should be a USD $200 graphics card is selling for around $500 now. I would not consider buying a graphics card at those prices, even if you have to wait months for them to come back down, unless you are really desperate for a card and have money to burn.
 
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SSDs help with load times, but that usually manifests more when first starting an application or (more likely) when booting up the PC itself. For gameplay purposes, SSD vs. HDD doesn't really make a difference.

Have you double-checked your CPU/GPU utilization & temps, to make sure the problem isn't there? Yeah, the R7 370 isn't the greatest of GPUs, but WoW shouldn't be stressing it -- the R7 370 is nothing more than a rebadged R9 270, & when they tested it against the RX 460 (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-460,4707-4.html) it turned in decent performance. And since I would imagine raiding involves lots of onscreen players & monsters, chances are the drops are going to be more to CPU processing than GPU processing.
 
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If you want to increase raid FPS for World of Warcraft you need to upgrade the CPU not the GPU. Unfortunately for that price you are not going to find that much better than what you already have for less than what you were willing to spend.

But don't go upgrading your graphics card and thinking that it's going to improve that raid FPS. It will not.

For comparison I have an 8700k and I get about 40 in that fight.
 
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If your main goal is to increase Raid fps. The best you can do on your board is this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-QuadCore-Cache/dp/B01MRRPPQS/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1516924201&sr=1-1&keywords=7600k

With this I would say your fps would probably stay above 35. It shouldn't drop below 30 ever.

But again that's a lot of money for like 15fps.

A 370 is only slightly slower than a 1050, and a 1050 is capable of 60+fps on preset7-8 pretty much always. I'd say you could do preset 5 and be comfortably at 60+ with the GPU. The CPU is for sure the problem in raids.
 
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two fold issue

one, gpu power is lacking, +1 on the recommendation for a gtx 1060


and cpu power in raid, sadly you do not have a overclocking motherboard which severely cripples your choices

about the only worthwhile upgrade is a i7 7700
 
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GPU power is not as much of a problem as the CPU, I would say its not much of a problem at all. Actually the only time the GPU is getting used a lot is in the world zones (not raids, BGs, dungeons, or even old content areas, pretty much just Legion zones). Even a 1050 Ti can run WoW on Ultra settings and have constant 60+ fps. The 370 should still be capable of medium settings 60+fps.

Secondly, GPU settings can be turned down, getting 15-30fps at Preset 1 is a CPU issue. A new GPU will do absolutely friggin nothing when the CPU is maxed out and only getting 15-30fps.

7700 is out of budget and even at stock a 7600k is faster singe-core and quad-core performance, for WoW those are much more beneficial than the hyperthreading offered by the 7700.

Already looked up board compatibility. That board does support Kaby Lake with the most recent BIOS update.
 
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4590 is the same speed as the 6500 SC/QC. does your friend raid? because he would be seeing similar FPS drops in raids.

I have an 8700k my FPS on the fight the OP mentioned is 45 on preset 10 with view distance at 7.

So by "isn't having any problems with performance" you either mean world performance, which outside of large BG's, world bosses, and raids is really hard to have performance issues anyways, or he doesn't care about the raid fps drops.

In any case the OP DOES care about the fps drops and a new GPU is not going to help him in raids.
 
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He raids and doesn't have to play on low. I had a 280x/7970 ghz edition and a 770. Most titles they were neck and neck, WoW, the 770 blew it out of the water. WoW does not work well with AMD gpu's. It never has. Back in vanilla it had this badge.

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Harp on the CPU all you want, but the fact remains that an R370 is not a suitable card for WoW.
 
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It's not great but reducing the settings to 1 and not getting an fps increase is a clear CPU issue.

Again, your friend must not mind the fps drops. The OP said he does. To fix that, the CPU needs an upgrade. The GPU is fine for now.
 
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